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Subject: FW: Conversations, or BP alignment with TR&P and Architecture
I sent the following message to the ebXML-Business Process list, and (of course) also seek comments from TR&P and Architecture groups. Thanks, Bob Haugen -----Original Message----- From: Bob Haugen [SMTP:linkage@interaccess.com] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 7:11 AM To: 'ebXML-BP@lists.oasis-open.org' Subject: Conversations, or BP alignment with TR&P and Architecture Has anybody discussed alignment of the BP metamodel with the Transport, Routing & Packaging and Architecture specifications? I just did some reading in the most recent documents for both groups, focusing on the issue of conversations. By "conversation", I mean message exchanges consisting of more than one message, e.g. a long-running Business Transaction. The BP metamodel assumes the need for long-running conversations. So does TR&P, and (maybe) Architecture. However, the responsibility for defining the software that manages these conversations is not clear. Practically speaking, long-running conversations require some software to manage the ongoing state of the conversation and apply the rules, e.g. Business Transaction Constraints and Ordering Rules, and possibly manage Duality relationships. This software could live at both ends of the conversation, using a shared or duplicated Business Process Definition, or it could live in a shared Business Transaction processing service, e.g. an Internet "marketplace". ebXML TR&P specifies in diagrams an Integration System where Business Rules and Document Choreography from Business Process Modeling are supposed to take place. However, this Integration System is then declared out-of-scope for TR&P. In the TR&P diagrams, instances of the Integration System live at both ends of a message exchange. The Integration Systems have their own private repositories, which can access a Master Repository. The ebXML Architecture documents use these same diagrams. However, Architecture goes on to propose an "ebXML Application" at each end of a message transmission which uses a Business Process model. Architecture does not mention transaction semantics or long-running conversations. However, transaction semantics are declared to be within the scope of TR&P, including "support for a session-based transaction and/or a long term transaction". TR&P also wants to support Multiple Round Trip Document Exchanges: "A Multiple Round Trip Document Exchange consists of: 1) a Request Message sent from one Party to a second Party, followed by 2) a series of Exchange Messages that are exchanged between the two Parties until finally 3) the second Party generates and sends a Response Message back to the first Party. Examples of Multiple Round Trip Document Exchanges include: 4) the exchange of messages required to make a payment using payment method protocols such as [SET] or [Mondex] 5) the exchange of messages required to negotiate an agreement on terms and conditions." TR&P also has a (simpler) counterpart to the Business Process Definition hierarchy of the BP metamodel: "A Service Definition describes a process that can be carried out by a Party. It consists of either a Document Exchange or a set of Sub-Services. Each Sub-Service is a Service in its own right. So, at the lowest level, all Service Definitions are described in terms of a Document Exchange. The dependencies between the Sub-Services in a Service is described in a Sub-Service Choreography. An instance of the execution of a Service Definition is called a Transaction." "A Transaction is an instance of the execution of a Service 10 . Examples of a Transaction include: 1) a Purchase Transaction that buys a Company Report for $20. It consists of three Sub-Service instances: a) an Offer Service instance to buy the Company Report for $20 b) a Payment Service instance that accepts a Payment for $20 using a credit card, and finally c) a Delivery Service instance that delivers the Company Report as an HTML web page. 2) a Buying Service that consists of the following Sub-Services: a) three Price Negotiation Service instances that negotiate the price of a Photocopier b) a Purchase Order Service instance that places the order for the Photocopier." TR&P is also proposing conversation templates (as I have repeatedly proposed in BP discussions). tpaML, which we considered briefly in Seattle, proposes TPA "objects" that live at each of a long-running transaction, managing the conversation. It appears that tpaML has software that manages conversations. My impression in Seattle was that Edifecs/RosettaNet has software to manage conversations as well. Comments? 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