Re: OTA Tag name rules

[Sam Hunting <shunting@ecomxml.com>]

Presumably you (Murray) are convinced that common coding style across ebXML
DTDs is a Good Thing.

I'm new to the lists. Who can suggest another forum that covers issues
common to all groups?

S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Murray Maloney" <murray@muzmo.com>
To: "Sam Hunting" <shunting@ecomxml.com>
Cc: "Murray Maloney" <murray@muzmo.com>; "Krishna Sankar"
<ksankar@cisco.com>; "Christopher Ferris" <chris.ferris@east.sun.com>;
"Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM" <srh@us.ibm.com>;
<ebxml-architecture@lists.ebxml.org>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: OTA Tag name rules


> That is a good question. And an appropriate one.
> I don't have the answer to that, but I remain
> confident that Architecture is not the place.
> I think that Architecture has already bitten
> off enough.
>
> At 02:23 PM 9/29/00 -0700, Sam Hunting wrote:
> >And common coding style across ebXML DTDs should be discussed where?
> >
> >S.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Murray Maloney" <murray@muzmo.com>
> >To: "Krishna Sankar" <ksankar@cisco.com>
> >Cc: "Christopher Ferris" <chris.ferris@east.sun.com>; "Sam Hunting"
> ><shunting@ecomxml.com>; "Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM" <srh@us.ibm.com>;
> ><ebxml-architecture@lists.ebxml.org>
> >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:21 AM
> >Subject: RE: OTA Tag name rules
> >
> >
> >> Why is this even being discussed in this Working Group?
> >> Architecture, as far as I can tell, has no responsibility
> >> for deciding these details.
> >>
> >> At 11:09 AM 9/29/00 -0700, Krishna Sankar wrote:
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I agree. Adding version numbers to tag names is not optimal.
> >> >
> >> > Can we not add the VersionNumber as an attribute - something like
> >> ><Cust.Pay.CreditCard VersionNumber="1.0">, so that whoever wants to
use
> >> >version numbers can use them and it does not break the stylesheets et
al.
> >> >
> >> > cheers
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Christopher Ferris [mailto:chris.ferris@east.sun.com]
> >> >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:49 AM
> >> >To: Sam Hunting
> >> >Cc: Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM; ebxml-architecture@lists.ebxml.org
> >> >Subject: Re: OTA Tag name rules
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Sam Hunting wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Prefixes will use a period (.) as a separator.
> >> >>
> >> >> Are there advocates for this practice on ebXML?
> >> >>
> >> >> > Example: <v1.Cust.Pay.CreditCard>
> >> >
> >> >Yech! Putting the version in the tag name seems to me to
> >> >be a colossal mistake. I could see adding a version attribute
> >> >to each element (possibly) but having different tag names
> >> >would necessarily require code modifications if in nothing
> >> >other than XSLT stylesheets. Not a good idea, IMHO. I certainly
> >> >would hope that ebXML would NOT adopt this practice or standard!
> >> >
> >> >> > OTA's tag naming conventions include the specification version and
> >> >content
> >> >> > hierarchy as prefixes and, as a result, will require greater
> >bandwidth
> >> >to
> >> >> transmit than tags with
> >> >> > more cryptic codes. OTA made the decision to include this much
text
> >in
> >> >the
> >> >> tags
> >> >> > so OTA could convert the data model to XML-Schema as
> >> >> > easily as possible. XML-Schema will not need the context or
hierarchy
> >> >> included in the tag
> >> >> > names, which will reduce their size.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there anyone on the list privy to these discussions?
> >> >>
> >> >>     (1)  What is the "context or hierarchy" involved that can't be
> >> >expressed
> >> >> by more typical nested containment?
> >> >
> >> >Good question!
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>     (2) Why can't the "context or hierarchy" be expressed in DTDs as
> >> >opposed
> >> >> to schemas?
> >> >
> >> >Good question
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>     (3) Why put the "context or hierarchy" in the element names?
> >> >
> >> >Yes, indeed! What ever for!
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance.
> >> >
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