RE: XMI discussion today

[Mark Hale <mark.hale@ajubasolutions.com>]

David,

> I would like to see, rather than a quick fixit decision on the tel' conf'
> call - rather a considered process where we establish the goals,
> set a small team within BP and produce a recommendation - and
> most important - working examples.

This is a good comment.

At current, the meta-model has been scoped beautifully to reflect a sound
business processing paradigm.  However, I feel that other efforts may
produce equally valid processes for SMEs.  We can easily identify 15-20
other modeling paradigms (Workflow Management, Decision Support Problem
Technique, Gantt, Flow Chart, etc.) that are widely used in practice today.
Through the BP focus on the meta-model in UML, I feel that these contrasting
paradigms are being neglected even though they provide very viable solutions
that meet the needs of the ebXML business community.  Would we have the same
meta-model if a different paradigm were used?  We can have a theoretical
discussion on mappings between the models; however, this is not the same as
explicit, simple recommendations for business process representations as you
pointed out are needed.  Moreover, these recommendations should be
manageable by all members of the larger ebXML community, including SE and
ME.

On this note, I do apologize that because of the time constraints on my
joint interaction between the POC and BP that I cannot dedicate more time
toward effecting this need.

	Thanks,

	Mark


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David RR Webber [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:01 AM
> To: Evan Ireland
> Cc: Karsten Riemer - Sun IR Development; [unknown]; [unknown]; [unknown]
> Subject: Re: XMI discussion today
>
>
> > us at 12 pm est today.
>
> Sorry I couldn't join the call, but I wonder if it should be considered to
> use
> BPML (http://www.bpmi.org) for this purpose.
>
> <<<<<<<<<<
>
> Evan,
>
> There has been prior discussion on BPML a while back.
>
> I would like to see, rather than a quick fixit decision on the tel' conf'
> call - rather a considered process where we establish the goals,
> set a small team within BP and produce a recommendation - and
> most important - working examples.
>
> I believe the answer is to create a set of ebXML BP DTD's that
> capture the business functional content - and RosettaNet and the
> ebXML metamodel work show the way here.
>
> Then if someone at some point can figure out how XMI can be
> derived to populate some or all of that information set - fine.
>
> Otherwise - lets not hurt ourselves trying to figure out other
> peoples problems - remember XMI was not designed to do
> ebXML.
>
> We should be focusing on the ebXML business functional
> solution here - not pieces of technology that may or may not be
> applicable.
>
> Thanks, DW.