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Subject: RE: Registry object persistence; are BPs owned?
Business Process Ownership: I believe the Business Process Identifier Naming Scheme (BPINS), "supports" aspects of what Jamie has described below. The naming scheme is described at http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-regrep/200101/msg00125.html. Briefly, the format is: bpid:<agency>:<agency-id>:<business-process-name>$<major-version-number>.<mi nor-version-number> where the <agency>:<agency-id> part identifies the owner of the business process. Of course, using this naming scheme assumes that everyone plays by the rules -- that is no user can save/change a business process in the business process registries (more than one!) using an improper <agency>:<agency-id>. Access Control: I believe that a registry/repository should have a certain amount of access control for a) accessing the registry and b) accessing content. For example, I would hope that a company like Commerce One would support a business process registry at its GlobalTradingWeb.net. This registry would allow public access; but, would not allow the general public to see "private" business processes that are stored in its repositories. Futures: I believe overtime that there will be few private business processes that don't have a public version (cooked up by someone else -- after all, there are only so many reasonable ways of doing business). The exception to that might be copyrighted or patented processes (is it possible to patent a collaborative business process?). /Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:jbc@lawyer.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 5:58 PM > To: ebxml-ccbp-analysis@lists.ebxml.org > Subject: Registry object persistence; are BPs owned? > > > [Resending to ccbp-analysis: it got rejected, I think I botched the > listserv address.] > > > The TP discussion about XML-DSIG hashing into specific > business process > artifacts, and how the transaction breaks if a referenced BP > changes or its > URI dies, is worth mentioning here for other reasons. > > >> From: Moberg, Dale <Dale_Moberg@stercomm.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:51 PM > >> * * * > >> That means that never removing process specifications from > >> from registries has definite CPA lifetime management advantages, > >> as well as always pointing to a stable registry provider! And just > >> think of how much storage vendors will like this opportunity for > >> keeping process specifications forever! > > Hmm. Archetypal logical business processes should be incapable of > copyright. However, implementation guides probably are not > -- somebody > did the sanding to join all those rough inter-implementation > edges. It is > possible that entities will offer access to proprietary BP patterns or > components, in a proprietary registry. > > Here is where we are going, I think: > > (1) Owners of BPs incorporated by a URI reference can, by removing or > changing them at the source location, functionally "turn them off". > (2) Users of BPs are sensitized to their need to either > (a) use open source BPs and make sure they're backed up, > (b) use BPs they own or can control themselves, or > (c) rent 'em, so to speak, and understand that their run-time > validity exists at the sufferance of their modelling "landlord." > > It's a bit jarring to think about a shifting, changing base > of IPR-limited > objects up in the registries. But in my view this is the natural > free-market result of the RA and TA saying that ebXML > registries MAY, but > are NOT REQUIRED to, share contents. > > I'm OK with that, I just want to get it out in the open for > discussion. > The result is that there will be no permanence or > consistency requirements > imposed (by the standard) on any registry donations, > o t h e r t h a n the "common business process/core component" seeds > being cooked up in CC). Sounds like a different world view > than Dale's. > Everyone OK with this? > > Jamie > > James Bryce Clark > Spolin Silverman & Cohen LLP > 310 586 2404 jbc@lawyer.com > >
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