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Subject: SMEs supported by: bpPROC
People are missing the point if they focus on the content of section 8.2, Catalog of Common Business Processes with Cross References, and not the intent of the document. The intent of the document will support SMEs. I suggest people read bpPROC and read the Business Information Analysis Overview [bpOVER] document to understand how the anlaysis/modeling process fits into the bigger picture of ebXML. SMEs (and their proponents) need to step up to the plate and 1) identify business processes/collaborations/transactions that they are interested in and 2) provide the business process models and specifications that they are interested in. The development of bpPROC is an open forum and it's unfortunate that people feel that SMEs were left out (but once again, they are not left out per the processes described in the document and in bpOver) Cheers, Brian -----Original Message----- From: David Lyon [mailto:djlyon@one.net.au] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 6:14 PM To: ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org; ebxml-ccbp-analysis@lists.ebxml.org; ebxml-core@lists.ebxml.org Cc: Paul R. Levine Subject: Re: bpPROC Interesting reading. Everybody has done a very good job at ensuring that this document comes together well. Good work. However the document only addresses the wants of bigger organisations, and has the same push as all of the EDI systems that we have ever seen, and that is:- Purchase Orders. Betty is able to truly capture what the response of SMEs will be. Millions of businesses are going to say the same thing about the description of the business process: Betty: > I have been in business 6 years and have created 1 PO and have received 2 so a PO is not big on my list of wants. That's the way it is. With large organisations it not always dissimilar. One company that I've done consulting for only receives about 20 POs for day (each usually for over a million dollars worth of product). These POs, both EDI and manual, must be received between 11:00am and 12:00am. A Longer window means unneccessary cost, and so they've been able to streamline the process into something that works quite well. With the business process defined in this document, ebXML might shave possibly ten minutes off a the process that is only taking a few hours anyway. With each PO usually for over a million dollars worth of goods, the operator isn't placed in a high pressure job. He makes a big fuss over how much trouble he has to go to to download the EDI files from GEIS, but I think he's just trying to play up the importantance of his job. So my question is that if the focus of ebXML business process is framed largely at Purchase Orders, knowing that Small Enterprises hardly use of them and large Enterprises are already efficient in this area, what positive impact is ebXML anticipated to have. The only benefit that I can see is for the business process modelling consultants who are looking for increasingly smaller faults to correct, without seeing any of the broader and more pressing applications of XML technology. I get the impression that ebXML is much like the current NASA space station situation. The ebXML designers are afraid to make design changes that would allow too many passengers to come on board. In fact, I get the impression that they don't want large numbers of people using ebXML. To quote something I saw Buzz Aldren say on the news last night speaking about the NASA administration, "They think that only superhumans should be able to do it [fly in space]". For just $20M one can get into space now, and yet the price of ebXML will be for many companies more expensive. I just can't see why ebXML has to be made more difficult than achieving space travel. Maybe we need Russians working on ebXML also. Take care David Lyon ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul R. Levine <plevine@telcordia.com> To: <ebxml-stc@lists.ebxml.org> Cc: ebXML-BP (E-mail) <ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org>; ebxml-ccbp-analysis (E-mail) <ebxml-ccbp-analysis@lists.ebxml.org> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 4:55 AM Subject: bpPROC > This is the official transmittal of the final draft of the ebXML Catalog of > Common Business Processes [bpPROC] reference document from the > Analysis/Methodology Group of the ebXML Business Process/Core Components > Joint Delivery Team (BP/CC JDT) for public review prior to the Vienna > plenary meeting. > > Included in the zip file are a pdf file of bpPROC and an doc file of the > log of comments and resolutions. > > Klaus Naujok and Karl Best are hereby requested to post bpPROC and the > disposition log for public viewing. > > Regards, > > Paul Levine > (See attached file: bpPROC_v0.99.zip) > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this elist send a message with the single word "unsubscribe" in the body to: ebxml-bp-request@lists.ebxml.org
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