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Subject: Re: Glossary update


this is fine ,

how about...

Repository Object (TA)
The data elements for the metadata associated with the submission, the submission
itself ( i.e. the schema or the
DTD ) has to be whole schema or DTD.

- then i think we need to define 'submission'.

BTW does this fit with what the TA group refer to as an 'atomic particle'?

Nagwa Abdelghfour wrote:

> For clarification, the reg rep talks about the data elements for the metadata
> associated with the submission, the submission itself ( i.e. the schema or the
> DTD ) have to be whole schema or DTD
>
> Nagwa
>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:19:38 +0800
> > From: "Tim McGrath" <tmcgrath@tedis.com.au>
> > X-Accept-Language: en
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > To: ebxml-coord@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: Re: Glossary update
> >
> >
> >
> > Clive Darling wrote:
> >
> > > Tim,
> > > Sorry I didn't get time before my holiday (starting tomorrow) to go through
> > > the glossary as I had hoped.
> > > But I would like to comment on the question of what is typically held in the
> > > repository, relative to schemas. I believe the intention is that whole
> > > schemas and schema fragments will typically be held, but not down to the
> > > data element level (e.g. a quantity). I looked to the description of
> > > Repository Object in the glossary to see if it would help but the
> > > definition:
> > > "Repository Object (TA)
> > > A generic description of ANY object, whether it be a process or an actual
> > > Data Element, that is stored in a Repository.  Repository Objects can be
> > > atomic or complex structures of atomic data elements."
> > > didn't help. Can we expand it to state what we typically expect to find
> > > there?
> >
> > sorry i have missed you, but hope this helps.
> >
> > i am not sure i exactly grasp your question about "I believe the intention is
> > that whole
> > schemas and schema fragments will typically be held, but not down to the
> > data element level (e.g. a quantity). "
> >
> > I have had a look at the work RegRep are doing in  this area and my summary
> is:-
> >
> > i quite like the RegReps view of the 4 layers (M0,M1,M2, M3), where..
> >
> > M0 is the data instances (data element value)- (maybe these are 'objects'?)
> > M1 is the metadata model (down to data element data) - (maybe these are
> 'object
> > classes'?)
> > M2 is the metamodel (data about metadata models)
> > M3 is the meta-metamodel (data about modelling techniques)
> >
> > RegRep propose the repository holds the M3 layer information and the registry
> > holds M1 level data for the meta-metamodels.
> >
> > in this case wouldn't a repository object describe how to model data elements
> > but not necessarily holding schemas OR fragments OR elements?  what goes in
> > there depends on the individual use.
> >
> > RegRep have developed a set of 'classifications' of the type of things you may
> > find in the repository
> >
> > http://www.ebxml.org/working/project_teams/registry/Classifications.html
> >
> > so... i think we do need a clearer definition
> >
> > any volunteers?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Clive Darling
> > > Business Development, TIE Holding NV
> > > Tel:  31-23 568 9999   Fax: 31-23 568 9998
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ebxml-coord@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > [mailto:owner-ebxml-coord@lists.oasis-open.org]On Behalf Of Tim McGrath
> > > Sent: 18 June 2000 09:53
> > > To: ebxml-coord@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > Subject: Glossary update
> > >
> > > here is my first pass on this. mainly i took the Req. Document and some
> > > core component and TP&R notes to extend those of toufic.  some are just
> > > terms
> > > and need definitions
> > >
> > > i think this glossary already identifies some overlaps and opportunities
> > > for synchronising terms across documents and will be a useful aid in
> > > creating the big picture of ebXML.
> > >
> > > NB i tried to use word-edit tracking but it got very messy when i resorted
> > > alpabetically - so i decided to apply the changes anyway.  sorry it makes
> > > it harder to see the differences :-(
> > >
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tim mcgrath
TEDIS   fremantle  western australia 6160
phone: +618 93352228  fax: +618 93352142

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