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Subject: Re: Glossary update


I think defining the submission is kind of tricky, the submission can be a DTD, 
schema, Business Process, or a core component, I think we need to work with the 
other group to be able to put a right definition for the submission 

Nagwa

> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:04:42 +0800
> From: "Tim McGrath" <tmcgrath@tedis.com.au>
> X-Accept-Language: en
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: Nagwa Abdelghfour <Nagwa.Abdelghfour@eng.sun.com>
> CC: ebxml-coord@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: Glossary update
> 
> this is fine ,
> 
> how about...
> 
> Repository Object (TA)
> The data elements for the metadata associated with the submission, the 
submission
> itself ( i.e. the schema or the
> DTD ) has to be whole schema or DTD.
> 
> - then i think we need to define 'submission'.
> 
> BTW does this fit with what the TA group refer to as an 'atomic particle'?
> 
> Nagwa Abdelghfour wrote:
> 
> > For clarification, the reg rep talks about the data elements for the 
metadata
> > associated with the submission, the submission itself ( i.e. the schema or 
the
> > DTD ) have to be whole schema or DTD
> >
> > Nagwa
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:19:38 +0800
> > > From: "Tim McGrath" <tmcgrath@tedis.com.au>
> > > X-Accept-Language: en
> > > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > To: ebxml-coord@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > Subject: Re: Glossary update
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Clive Darling wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tim,
> > > > Sorry I didn't get time before my holiday (starting tomorrow) to go 
through
> > > > the glossary as I had hoped.
> > > > But I would like to comment on the question of what is typically held in 
the
> > > > repository, relative to schemas. I believe the intention is that whole
> > > > schemas and schema fragments will typically be held, but not down to the
> > > > data element level (e.g. a quantity). I looked to the description of
> > > > Repository Object in the glossary to see if it would help but the
> > > > definition:
> > > > "Repository Object (TA)
> > > > A generic description of ANY object, whether it be a process or an 
actual
> > > > Data Element, that is stored in a Repository.  Repository Objects can be
> > > > atomic or complex structures of atomic data elements."
> > > > didn't help. Can we expand it to state what we typically expect to find
> > > > there?
> > >
> > > sorry i have missed you, but hope this helps.
> > >
> > > i am not sure i exactly grasp your question about "I believe the intention 
is
> > > that whole
> > > schemas and schema fragments will typically be held, but not down to the
> > > data element level (e.g. a quantity). "
> > >
> > > I have had a look at the work RegRep are doing in  this area and my 
summary
> > is:-
> > >
> > > i quite like the RegReps view of the 4 layers (M0,M1,M2, M3), where..
> > >
> > > M0 is the data instances (data element value)- (maybe these are 
'objects'?)
> > > M1 is the metadata model (down to data element data) - (maybe these are
> > 'object
> > > classes'?)
> > > M2 is the metamodel (data about metadata models)
> > > M3 is the meta-metamodel (data about modelling techniques)
> > >
> > > RegRep propose the repository holds the M3 layer information and the 
registry
> > > holds M1 level data for the meta-metamodels.
> > >
> > > in this case wouldn't a repository object describe how to model data 
elements
> > > but not necessarily holding schemas OR fragments OR elements?  what goes 
in
> > > there depends on the individual use.
> > >
> > > RegRep have developed a set of 'classifications' of the type of things you 
may
> > > find in the repository
> > >
> > > http://www.ebxml.org/working/project_teams/registry/Classifications.html
> > >
> > > so... i think we do need a clearer definition
> > >
> > > any volunteers?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Clive Darling
> > > > Business Development, TIE Holding NV
> > > > Tel:  31-23 568 9999   Fax: 31-23 568 9998
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-ebxml-coord@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > > [mailto:owner-ebxml-coord@lists.oasis-open.org]On Behalf Of Tim McGrath
> > > > Sent: 18 June 2000 09:53
> > > > To: ebxml-coord@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > > Subject: Glossary update
> > > >
> > > > here is my first pass on this. mainly i took the Req. Document and some
> > > > core component and TP&R notes to extend those of toufic.  some are just
> > > > terms
> > > > and need definitions
> > > >
> > > > i think this glossary already identifies some overlaps and opportunities
> > > > for synchronising terms across documents and will be a useful aid in
> > > > creating the big picture of ebXML.
> > > >
> > > > NB i tried to use word-edit tracking but it got very messy when i 
resorted
> > > > alpabetically - so i decided to apply the changes anyway.  sorry it 
makes
> > > > it harder to see the differences :-(
> > > >
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