[Fwd: FWD: re: POC liaison report]

[Tim McGrath <tmcgrath@tedis.com.au>]

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• From: Tim McGrath <tmcgrath@tedis.com.au>
• To: David RR Webber <Gnosis_@compuserve.com>
• Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 03:35:49 +0800

as the Tech Coord liaison with the POC, you are correct to raise this issue.

i was made aware during the BC /CC  teleconference - it is precisiely why we
were supposed to have our scenarios and demo plan in place.

let put it on the agenda for next week. ( i am still putting this together).

David RR Webber wrote:

> FYI.
>
> I don;t want to start a war here - but clearly the Coord group (of which
> I'm a member) could be accused of dropping the ball here, and
> needing to pick it up big time.
>
> I'll accept that, but can;t speak for everyone - some would argue
> just as hard its not Coords job!  We'll have to get direction from the
> Executive committee on this ultimately, and of course POC was
> formed on the back end of Brussels and so is still learning too.
>
> Anyway - that's why we're getting together next week to resolve
> all these issues!
>
> Thanks, DW.
>
> -------------Forwarded Message-----------------
>
> From:   David RR Webber,
> To:     Brian Eisenberg, INTERNET:BrianE@DataChannel.com
>
> CC:     [unknown], INTERNET:ebxml-architecture@lists.ebxml.org
>
> Date:   03-08-100  3:22 PM
>
> RE:     re: POC liaison report
>
> Message text written by Brian Eisenberg
> >
> Here's a quick update on the POC. The latest draft of the POC spec (v0.85)
> is located here:
> http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-poc/200008/doc00001.doc. The POC team
> will be making a few minor changes to this version and plan to freeze the
> document by EOB today
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> Brian - there's serious problems here!!!
>
> Can I be forgiven for thinking this is a warmed over RosettaNet
> implementation
> that a bunch of vendors are re-purposing as a wedge into ebXML?
>
> Notice almost the same 'demo' is being promoted at OAG too!
>
> I'm sorry but this has to be said, I'm not here to have a cozy love fest,
> but to deliver a quality solution that meets the ebXML Architecture and
> ebXML Requirements details - which this RosettaNet example is a million
> miles
> from right now IMHO.
>
> This is EXACTLY the sort of thing that Microsoft is objecting to about the
> ebXML work - and this is handing them the evidence on a plate.
>
> OK - quite apart from the politics.
>
> Let's get back to basics.  The Coord team has put together some models
> and scenarios - the Architecture group also has made solid progress,
> and the RegRep team is closing in on their interchange spec's.
>
> Let's start there on building what a POC should look like, NOT the
> RosettaNet PIPs.
>
> Look forward to discussing more next week.
>
> Thanks, DW.

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