RE: [BP] specification relationship issues 2

[Cory Casanave <cory-c@dataaccess.com>]

Scott,
Thanks for the close look.  Please see in-line.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Scott Hinkelman [SMTP:srh@us.ibm.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:47 PM
> To:	Cory Casanave; ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org; ebxml-core@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject:	RE: [BP] specification relationship issues 2
> 
> Cory,
> I am copying this to the listers in spirit of open discussion.
> 
> I see 'AuthorizingRole' in the UML but I can't find 'authorizingRole' in
> the 91 dtd.
	[CBC]  In the interests of syntactic minimalism these are part of
the binary collaboration which has attributes for the requesting and
responding names.  So a binary-collaboration tag will create the
BinaryCollaboration and two AuthorizingRoles.  The same is done for
business-transaction which will create the requesting and responding
activities (since these are all 1-1 relations).
> Firstly do you believe that a <binary-collaboration> should only exist
> under a <package>?
	[CBC]  Interesting you should bring this up.  In the OMG-EDOC-CCA
model things like collaborations, business transactions and
muli-party-collaborations (by other names) are also namespaces and can
include the definition of other elements inside them (like documents and sub
collaborations),  so they inherit from "package" .  This came out of some
discussion about model management.  I think it would be a good idea for the
EB  model to do the same, but I didn't see it as sufficiently important to
bring up now.  

> Seperate issue:
> 091.xml: I assume both the <transistion>'s 'from' attribute and the
> <start>'s 'to' attribute both refer to
> a <business-transaction-activity>'s 'name' attribute within the same
> <binary-collaboration>. 
	[CBC]  Yes
> If so,
> I suggest changing the slightly misleading dtd comment:
> "         <!-- the "OrderCollaboration" specifies that it will start with
> an "OrderBT"
>                 business transaction from the buy role.  If the order is
> confirmed it will... "
> to:
> "         <!-- the "OrderCollaboration" specifies that it will start with
> an "OrderBT"
>                 business-transaction-activity which indicates from the buy
> role.  If the order is confirmed it will..."
	[CBC]  Ok

> This leads to a question, on:
> If a <binary-collaboration> specifies an 'initiator' and 'responder' via
> attributes, what exactly does this
> mean if its contained <business-transaction-activity>s can define the
> direction via 'from' and 'to'? 
	[CBC]  After the initial activity then either role may initiate an
activity forming a 2-way conversation.
> Is  the intention that the first <business-transaction-activity> must have
> the
> initiator value specified within
> it's from attribute?
	[CBC]  Yes, this should be specified - I will put it in the DTD
table.

> Scott Hinkelman, Senior Software Engineer
> XML Industry Enablement
> IBM e-business Standards Strategy
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> 
> 
> Cory Casanave <cory-c@dataaccess.com> on 01/04/2001 10:32:01 AM
> 
> To:   Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
> cc:
> Subject:  RE: [BP] specification relationship issues 2
> 
> 
> 
> Scott,
> I don't know how to say this in DTD without imposing strict ordering
> constraints on the model elements (which I don't think we want).  We can
> change the cardinality in the model (from authorizingRole to Requesting
> Activity) to 1..n.  The start state may have to be a documentation
> constraint.
> Cory
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Scott Hinkelman [SMTP:srh@us.ibm.com]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, January 03, 2001 4:37 PM
> > To:     ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org; ebxml-core@lists.ebxml.org
> > Subject:     [BP] specification relationship issues 2
> >
> > The following validates under 090 dtd.
> > -> We should insist that a binary-collaboration contains at least 1
> > business-transaction-activity,
> > and at least 1 start.
> >
> > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> > <!DOCTYPE EbXmlProcessSpecification SYSTEM
> > "file://localhost/C:/ebXML/BP/ebXmlSpecificationDTD090.dtd" >
> > <EbXmlProcessSpecification>
> >   <package name="mypackage"/>
> >   <package name="mysecondpackage"/>
> >   <business-transaction name="mybusinesstransaction">
> >     <request type="myrequesttype"/>
> >   </business-transaction>
> >   <binary-collaboration initiator="theinitiator" name="thename"
> responder
> > ="theresponder"/>
> > </EbXmlProcessSpecification>
> >
> > Scott Hinkelman, Senior Software Engineer
> > XML Industry Enablement
> > IBM e-business Standards Strategy
> > 512-823-8097 (TL 793-8097) (Cell: 512-940-0519)
> > srh@us.ibm.com, Fax: 512-838-1074
>