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Subject: RE: Just what is a Core Component? Well, it depends on what "is" is.

Title: RE: Just what is a Core Component? Well, it depends on what "is" is.
    If the definition in the glossary is correct, then I respectfully submit that the remainder of the ebXML CC documents are less than effective in that they do not provide an intuitive process with which to develop a core component, nor do they adequately explain the larger core component architecture you identify.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Shreve [mailto:lshreve@mediaone.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:58 PM
To: CRAWFORD, Mark; ebXML Core
Subject: Re: Just what is a Core Component? Well, it depends on what "is" is.

I think the question you meant to ask is, what is the core component architecture.  It is probably clear, having had discussions about context, extension, core components --- even in this discussion thread --- that there is a lot more depth to this issue than a simple definition of a single term in a very innovative architecture. 
But, if you are only interested in a definition, the one in the glossary is the agreed upon one.  I believe that it accurately describes one aspect of the CC architecture, the core component.
If you think there is more that needs to be added to the definition, your constructive input is welcome and appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: Just what is a Core Component? Well, it depends on what "is" is.

William (or should I say William JJ?)

        Very interesting, however the question still remains - where in the single expected ebXML core component specification (or in any of the supporting documents identified in the  is a firm definition of a core component.  The latest version of the discovery and analysis document still doesn't explain what it is we are discovering and analyzing.  Each of the ebXML CC Documents have vague references to the concept of a core component, but I have yet to find a clear definition, much less a more detailed explanation of the concept of core, in any of them (and that includes the BP and CC overview document).  I know the ebXML glossary has a definition ( lowest level, industry neutral building blocks which are used within the construction of ebXML business processes), but does that really say what we need to say.  I don't think so as one of the most frequently asked questions I receive from folks when I am talking about ebXML, is what is a core component.  And the questions are usually from folks who have tried to read the draft documents.  If they don't get it, what hope do we have of anyone using this stuff?

        If I am missing it, perhaps the editors can point out the exact location for my tired eyes (too many ebXML specs, not enough resting time!)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:wkammerer@foresightcorp.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:55 AM
> To: ebXML Core
> Subject: Just what is a Core Component? Well, it depends on what "is"
> is.
> Mark Crawford asked "when are we going to see a standard definition of
> what a core component is?"
> There's stuff under the legend "Core Component Definition and
> Relationship with CBOs" at the ebXML Core Components page at
> http://www.ebxml.org/project_teams/core_components/Method.htm, which
> includes CC-Definition_2000-10-18.doc.  This was contributed by Mike
> Adcock, dated 2000-10-18 (see, I'm using ISO 8601 Extended Data
> formats!!). It seems like a workable definition, and is accompanied by
> pictures and diagrams.  Is there anything wrong with this
> document?  And
> if so, why is it still available at the web site?
> William J. Kammerer
> 4950 Blazer Pkwy.
> Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
> +1 614 791-1600
> Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
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