Re: What do people really expect from ebXML?

[David Lyon <djlyon@one.net.au>]

Hi guys, I'm new to this list so please forgive me if I have the wrong
idea..... 

however, my two cents worth is.........

EDI was such a good idea twenty years ago but technically it's just like
a steam engine.... it's time for a change......

What people expect is that ebXML will *FIX* so many of the
technical problems that we've had with EDI, and take electronic
commerce onto the next level........

The next level is the SME, now powered with Pentium computers
that outperform any computers that old Ford and General Motors
had in the good ol' days of EDI. One VAN I worked at had a
computer as powerful as a Pentium 150. In those days it was
really cool. Now it's rather drab.

SMEs want some really cool snooting software that all allows them
to trade!

So guys, where is it ?

Is that what ebXML is about, or am I in the wrong place?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: William J. Kammerer <wkammerer@foresightcorp.com>
To: ebXML Core <ebxml-core@lists.ebxml.org>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 11:23 PM
Subject: What do people really expect from ebXML?


> What do people really expect from ebXML?  Or in other words, what do
> businesses expect from ebXML Core Components?  I can reduce the scope of
> my first question simply because I think I can answer why they might
> want TR&P Messaging Services, the Registry, and Automated Trading
> Partner Agreements.  I might even be able to make a stab at answering
> that for Business Process modeling.
> 
> For example, TR&P Messaging Services is giving folks something much
> better than what they have now, replacing EDIINT AS1 and AS2 for
> point-to-point EDI over the Internet.  The Registry and Repository will
> at least be able to let you automatically locate your Trading partners'
> CPPs (Collaboration Partner Profile), and thus automate the process of
> "hooking" up to them -  avoiding the pain of the trading partner
> maintenance required of EDI over the Internet packages today.  Just
> these two parts of ebXML could completely remove what's perceived
> (perhaps incorrectly) as a major impediment to automated B2B
> interoperability (e.g., EDI) -  the "expensive" VAN.  Throw in a few
> more examples, and people will immediately discern the benefit of ebXML
> in ameliorating the misery of what they go through today.
> 
> I'm asking questions like these, especially of real businesses  (as
> opposed to vendors), to share with some folks in Marketing and
> Awareness.  After suitable distillation, a talented writer like Alan
> Kotok will probably be able to help craft convincing propaganda pieces.
> If you do have additional ideas on why Messaging Services, Business
> Processes, Registry and Trading Partner Automation will be attractive to
> business and industry - and just as important: why they're better than
> what we have now - please share your ideas, and I will gather and
> forward them to Beth Morrow of the M&A group.
> 
> But the benefits of Core Components is a tough one to explain.  In all
> fairness, it's the most complex piece of ebXML.  And its analog in
> conventional EDI has been around and working for years -  so CC has a
> tough hurdle to jump.  Sure, I know that modeling the data structures
> might help the standards making process, but that's not a benefit that
> will sell ebXML to the business community - only a small fraction of
> that community actually participates in the standards-making process, as
> they are mostly standards "consumers."    We might even say that Core
> Components will lead to an explosion of inexpensive off-the-shelf shrink
> wrapped B2B software - but why?  Why didn't EDI lead to inexpensive
> off-the-shelf shrink wrapped B2B software?
> 
> In short, why is it expected that the standards and products built upon
> the CC specs will result in anything better than what we have today with
> EDI?
> 
> William J. Kammerer
> FORESIGHT Corp.
> 4950 Blazer Pkwy.
> Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
> +1 614 791-1600
> 
> Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
> "accelerating time-to-trade"
> 
> 
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