RE: [ebxml-dev] ebXML MS v1.0 schema

[Belford Neil <Neil.Belford@vencorp.vic.gov.au>]

Dave,

Thanks for the consideration, however the v2.x of the messageHeader specs
are of no use to the 25 or so actual implementations of toolkits on the v1.0
spec; or for B2B communities trying to use those tools to build real
systems. All of these groups are making their own ad-hoc decisions on what
the schema should actually be. This situation is a DISASTER.

I am aware how open standards are developed - the problem here is that the
people who are actually doing the work - and getting paid for it - are
completely letting down those paying the bills. The worst part is that I
suspect the people you refer to - who are footing the bill - don't know that
the real deliverables are not there.


regards
Neil Belford
B2B Architect
FRC Project, VENCorp


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Welsh [mailto:dave@collaborativedomain.com]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:30 AM
To: Belford Neil
Cc: Ebxml-Dev (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] ebXML MS v1.0 schema


Neil,
Have you looked at
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ebxml-msg/#documents for the latest
(version 2.0 I think) of the ebXML messaging specs ?

Thanks
-Dave
ps. ebXML are "open standards" developed with the kind / free contribution
from companies, industry associations and government institutions from
around the world. Thanks and all the best.

----- Original Message -----
From: Belford Neil <Neil.Belford@vencorp.vic.gov.au>
To: Ebxml-Dev (E-mail) <ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:36 PM
Subject: [ebxml-dev] ebXML MS v1.0 schema


> It is a disgrace and a total abdication of responsibility that those
> provided with the resources to develop and maintain ebXML have left the
ebMS
> 1.0 'messageHeader.xsd' schema hanging. I hope you guys who are getting
paid
> to do this work are enjoying your sinecure while you swan around to
> conferences.
>
> To facilitate Full Retail Contesability, the Gas Industry in the state of
> Victoria in Australia is deploying a B2B system based on ebXML MS 1.0. The
> payload is an (local industry standard) aseXML document.
>
> We have a reference 'messageHeader.xsd' that is derived from the flawed
one
> published in the ebXML MS v1.0 spec, which I will gladly furnish, caveat
> emptor, to anybody who wants it.
>
> However we feel this is a ridiculous state of affairs. Will someone,
perhaps
> a tool vendor, or some other organisation who understands the problem
please
> hang out a reference schema somewhere on the web that we can all use.
>
> Also can we all please bring some pressure to bear on the people providing
> the funding to ebXML.org to ensure they know that the people charged with
> the responsibility of conveying the technical information are not
fulfilling
> their duties.
>
>
>
> Neil Belford
> B2B Architect
> FRC Project, VENCorp
>
>
>
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