RE: [ebxml-dev] Anyone else rather perturbed by IBM's recentannouncement....

[David Fischer <david@drummondgroup.com>]

The real difference is that ebXML UN/CEFACT-OASIS got IPR release for SOAP prior
to its inclusion.

This OTOH is a surprise.  It's not obvious what IBM thinks they own from the IPR
notice.

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ebxml-cppa/documents/ibm_ipr_statement.shtm
l

Regards,

David.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Kacandes [mailto:Peter.Kacandes@Sun.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:21 AM
To: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] Anyone else rather perturbed by IBM's recent
announcement....


On the surface, it sounds like this is no different than the issues with SOAP.

If I'm not mistaken, MS, IBM, and the rest of the six initiators of SOAP also
have IP on that and the licensing terms for SOAP are also RAND.

Nobody seems to be up in arms about SOAP (which would have consequences for
ebXML MHS), so how is this different?

Am I missing something?

cheers

pk

>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:17:22 -0500
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>> IBM has a patent covering electronic agreements which dates from before the
>> ebXML CPA work started.  We disclosed it recently in accordance with OASIS
>> policy which is "reasonable and nondiscriminatory licensing" (RAND).
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>  This is quite disturbing.  I had no idea OASIS permitted patent abuse in it's
>process.  This could seriously harm the adoption of ebXML.
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>  Can anyone comment on the validity of IBM's claim?
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Peter Kacandes

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