RE: [ebxml-dev] Distributive Directories ?

[Scott Nieman <snieman@venturipartners.com>]

The intent of ebXML Reg/Rep WAS for a distributed registry.  The project
team in the 18 month effort got really bogged down in the registry services
query syntax debates (more than six months worth as I recall) and never had
time to discuss / architect a solution.  

I personally have felt (on this listserv and the prior reg/rep listserv)
that a binding to Peer-to-peer technology such as Gnutella or JXTA is the
next step. We had this concept of a Registry of Registries, but that is
overkill, vs. an authentication server to access the peer community.

There is no reason that by using TopicMaps as classification schemes, and
binding to P2P cannot solve your concerns.  Last I saw, Gnutella wire
protocols were pretty cryptic, but by no means can't be recast to XML.

Scott Nieman
Venturi Technology Partners
952.352.5889

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lyon
To: andrzej@chaeron.com; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
Sent: 4/18/2002 10:09 PM
Subject: [ebxml-dev] Distributive Directories ?

Andrzej,

You've raised some really good points.

Now I don't profess to be an expert in UDDI or WSDL but I've always
liked
the general philosophy behind ebXML. Generally speaking the idea of a
registry is a good one, it's virtually an extension of the Trading
Partner
information that is kept in most of the old EDI software programs.

Has anybody ever considered a Distributive Directory ?

This is now possible and viable with broadband and offers advantages for
small business over a centralised registry.

The philosophy behind a Distributive Directory is that a company joins
an
Exchange and when they do their details are broadcast (name, address,
net-address) to everybody on the exchange.

The details of the new company are stored in the database of all the
companies that are connected.

The result is that within a city or region, everybody can have the
contact
details of everybody else and their pricelist/catalog.

One could connect an entire city so that everybody could share everybody
elses information.

With broadband transmission speeds, a 2gig/hertz processor and a 70 gig
hard
drive, this seems to be readily achievable. That btw, is the hardware
that
the local Plumber can afford.

Surely this sort of technology is on the verge of becoming a reality.
There
are some among us who have seen it in operation.

Comments ?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrzej Jan Taramina" <andrzej@chaeron.com>
To: <ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] RE: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core Components


> > > Will the registry/repository concept for ebXML eventually merge
with
its
> > > counterpart defined for UDDI/Web Services ?
>
> There are some fundamental issues that might prevent this as well as
the
political
> ones.
>
> UDDI is a registry only...no repository, where as ebXML has both.
That
could (and
> may need to be) rectified by the UDDI spec (imagine 10,000 WSDL
definitions
> pointed to by a UDDI rep.....how would you manage the storage of all
these
in a large
> corporation in a doable fashion?  Put them on different web servers
all
over the
> company?  Not likely......some form of centralized repository will
eventually be
> needed to complement UDDI).
>
> The big issue is that UDDI has been designed to be a "global" public
directory
> (though that does not preclude private implementations), with support
for
federation
> and distribution of nodes (meaning that the distributed system appears
as
a single
> global registry).  Whereas ebXML RegRep has been designed as a
community-level
> registry, to target a specific group of parties with a common interest
(a
supply chain,
> industry vertical, etc.) and no provision has been made for
distribution/federation.
> Those are big chasms to cross in trying to merge the two together.
Different
> philosophical roots.
>
> Best practice seems to suggest that you use ebXML RegRep for community
stuff,
> and use UDDI more globally which in turn has a "pointer" to the
specific
RegRep.
>
> ...Andrzej
>
> Chaeron Corporation
> http://www.chaeron.com
>
>
>
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