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Subject: RE: Fwd: [ebxml-dev] Gartner and ebXML

Vijay seems to be blaming ebXML for his problems. There are plenty of people
using ebXML's Message Service without any difficulty.

Perhaps Vijay should consider another vendor.

Dick Brooks
Systrends, Inc
7855 South River Parkway, Suite 111
Tempe, Arizona 85284
Web: www.systrends.com <http://www.systrends.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael C. Rawlins [mailto:mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:09 PM
To: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: [ebxml-dev] Gartner and ebXML

I guess we can't count on Vijay to join the ebXML User Council. ;^)

At 11:57 PM 9/9/02 +0000, Vijay Sing wrote:

>Hi Brian,
>Yes but I've been testing some of the ebxml messaging software
>myself here in India and I don't find it to be that reliable.
>In my factory (we have over 220 workers), our technical chap
>could not get ebxml to work no matter how hard he tried. So I
>fired him in the end.
>When I first heard about ebxml I thought, wow, sounds to be
>a wonderful thing. But after all this time, it's still so hard
>to get to work. What can anyone say to that ?
>Anyway, we have life to live and what sort of life is to be
>always waiting, waiting, waiting..
>You can inform me if you find very nice other programs on
>Gartner CD.
>Thank you kindly sir
>Vijay Sing
>>----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
>>Subject: [ebxml-dev] Gartner and ebXML
>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 11:55:48 -0500
>>From: Brian Repko <brian_repko@hotmail.com>
>>To: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
>>ebXML developers:
>>Please forward to the marketing forum if more appropriate
>>to be there, but I just read through all the presentations
>>that are on the latest Gartner CD for Application Integration.
>>There was little to no mention of ebXML even in spots where
>>it should be mentioned ("there is no standard for reliable
>>messaging with web services").
>>ebXML is clearly NOT winning mindshare with Gartner and if
>>you don't get to them, then you don't get to people that can
>>make business decisions about it.
>>Brian Repko
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