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Subject: RE: [ebxml-dev]: ebXML and limited resources
Hello Monica, I think our story has been a pretty good one, although we haven't had the resources or really any managerial imperative to get our story out. Hence while I have heard of various things going on with NOIE and others here in Australia, we really haven't had time up until now to let these people know that not only is stuff in development in their own backyard, it is now in production. I am currently doing a post implementation appraisal of our effort here and would be happy to engage with anybody who wants to talk about this work in detail. The email address below would be the most effective contact point. I will spawn a new thread here called "FRC B2B System - Victorian Gas Industry" although I'm not sure how much further users here will want me to take this issue. Regards Neil Belford Architect, FRC B2B System VENCorp http://www.vencorp.com.au n.belford@computer.org -----Original Message----- From: Monica Martin [mailto:mmartin@certivo.net] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:07 AM To: BELFORD Neil Cc: Matthew Kaufman; Monica Martin Subject: Belford 11/13/2002 [ebxml-dev]: ebXML and limited resources Neil, I would encourage you to provide more information. Several ebXML enthusiasts are working on the ebXML Joint Marketing Team to develop, distribute, educate and entertain ebXML adoption stories to the marketplace. I have been working in that capacity, and have also been working with NOIE and AWP to keep abreast of Australian efforts. I am on the JMT steering committee. Finally, and technically, there is work within XCBF (Biometrics) under OASIS to define a lightweight option for XML encoding using ASN.1. It does not have to have XML Encryption or Signature, and allows a great deal of optimization for mobile or limited resource use. For more details, contact Phil Griffin at: phil.griffin@ASN-1.com. I ook forward to hearing from you and getting more information. Thank you. Monica J. Martin Program Manager Business Development Manager Drake Certivo, Inc. 208.585.5946 -----Original Message----- From: BELFORD Neil [mailto:Neil.Belford@vencorp.vic.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:16 PM To: Ebxml-Dev (E-mail) Subject: FW: [ebxml-dev] ebXML and limited resources Hello Daniel, We have just gone live with an industry wide B2B implementation using the ebXML messaging infrastructure, carrying an aseXML document as the payload. aseXML is the Australian energy industries data description language. I'm not sure what you mean by network resources, if you want high speed network performance, clearly - dont use any form of web services, ebXML or otherwise, don't use anything that uses HTTP as the transport layer. If you are in an all Java environment use RMI (in conjunction with RMIProxy http://www.rmiproxy.com/ if you have to cross firewalls - otherwise it will fall back to HTTP anyway and defeat the purpose of the technology). If you dont have the option of deploying on RMI then you need CORBA and middleware. The difficulties of CORBA (and DCOM for that matter) is kind of the problem that cumbersome web services are there to fix. So - if ubiquity demands you sit on HTTP (or SMTP for that matter) using an intermediate data description language (presumably some flavour of XML) - expect overheads in the gateways and on the network. ebXML is an excellent solution to many of the problems posed by inter enterprise collaboration, certainly here in the Gas industry it has been a startling success in the form in which we have used it ( ebMS v1.0 with signing and reliable messaging). However while it offers excellent abstraction from the disparate platforms that are deployed by the various participants, it is by no means 'lightweight' in the gateways. The overheads in HTTPS, digital signing, reliable messaging, and so on, are substantial, particularly if you need to scale up to large traffic volumes. Our system (which has a hub and spoke architecture) has been live for about 3 weeks and is currently doing about 100,000 messages through the hub on a busy day. Given all the constraints we faced, I don't think any technology other than ebXML could have delivered a viable messaging solution to this industry; in conjunction with aseXML which has here demonstrated the great strength of XML in providing a common data description language. Neil Belford Architect, FRC B2B System VENCorp http://www.vencorp.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Kilper [mailto:daniel.kilper@mailbox.tu-dresden.de] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:55 AM To: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org Subject: [ebxml-dev] ebXML and limited resources Dear all, We are currently dealing with XML based transaction standards used in environments with limited network resources. Is there an investigation available dealing with efficiency of ebXML under time or limited network resource constraints? 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