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Subject: RE: [ebxml-mktg] ebXML vs EDIINT (AS2)


David,

Can you explain this statement in some more detail: "The initial technical
report on this is "YES" it can be done - to provide ebXML delivery over AS2
and adding this link to ebMS products." What does "provide ebXML delivery
over AS2" and "adding this link to ebMS products" really mean?

I think it's risky to assume this is a very short term step for WalMart. For
practical reasons, it would probably be very smart to think in terms of
making the non ebMS-aspects of ebXML (CPP/A, Registry, and BPSS) work with
AS2. 

I have not seen anyone present a compelling argument about the advantages of
ebMS vs. AS2. Do you have such an analysis? We have done some preliminary
thinking on this topic at Sterling Commerce and have not come up with
anything compelling.

Also, the WalMart initiative is for all of their partners big and small,
some 8,000.

Todd


-----Original Message-----
From: David RR Webber - XMLGlobal [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 1:26 PM
To: ebxml Marketing
Subject: re: [ebxml-mktg] ebXML vs EDIINT (AS2)

Anders,

What we have been looking at is how technically you can migrate
from AS2 to ebXML.

The initial technical report on this is "YES" it can be done - to 
provide ebXML delivery over AS2 and adding this link to
ebMS products.

What I see with the AS2 is that it is an interim step.  Clearly 
AS2 does not have all the BPSS and partner CPP support
that ebXML brings.

Therefore for someone like Walmart this is a very shortterm
step - AS2 - to simply reduce VAN costs to their lower
volume smaller suppliers.

Longer term I see they will have a validated infrastructure using
the internet - that can quickly step up to ebXML.

Thanks, DW.
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Message text written by Anders TholÚn
>There seem to be a lot of activity in the EDI community moving to EDI
message transfer over the internet using EDIINT AS2 in the last months.
(Walmart has for instance required ALL their suppliers to move to AS2,
forcing most of them to invest in new software and solutions.) SMEs
investing today in software to support EDIINT AS2 are not very likely to
switch to ebMS in the next decade. I see no signs of similar activity
for ebMS.

Does anybody know of information which compares the pros and cons of
ebMS and EDIINT AS2?
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