RE: Teleconference : RIM discussion

["Munter, Joel D" <joel.d.munter@intel.com>]

Scott,

I am quite surprised to see that the entire thread of planning regarding a
Reg/Rep telecon this week was a private eMail conversation amongst a subset
of the Reg/Rep list.  I am very grateful that I was forwarded this thread.
I see below that the FTF idea was scrapped last week and that lot of
coordination went into setting up a telecon. Why was any of this made
public? 

I'd be happy to attend by phone.  Is the information published below
correct.  Please clarify what a VNC is, what the VNC is being used for, and
what requirements I might need to meet to use this.  Is this a Virtual
Network Connection?

Joel

	cheers
-----Original Message-----
From: Nieman, Scott [mailto:Scott.Nieman@NorstanConsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 5:35 AM
To: 'Farrukh Najmi - JavaSoft East '; 'Krishna Sankar ';
'LGallagher@nist.gov '; ''Yutaka Yoshida' '; Nieman, Scott
Subject: RE: Teleconference : RIM discussion


I will open the number of lines to call in to 25 and post to the listserv.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Farrukh Najmi - JavaSoft East
To: Krishna Sankar; LGallagher@nist.gov; Farrukh.Najmi@east.sun.com; 'Yutaka
Yoshida'; Nieman, Scott
Sent: 12/14/00 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: Teleconference : RIM discussion


Scott,

This should be an open RR meeting for anyone to participate on the
phone. However, the VNC connections have to be limited
to 4.

--

Regards,
Farrukh


"Krishna Sankar" <ksankar@cisco.com> wrote:
>Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:14 -0800
>Hi all,
>
>	I will call in. I assume it is next Tuesday the 19th ! I am
cancelling all
>my Tuesday appointments !
>
>cheers and thanks
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nieman, Scott [mailto:Scott.Nieman@NorstanConsulting.com]
>Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 11:43 AM
>To: 'Yutaka Yoshida'; Farrukh.Najmi@east.sun.com; LGallagher@nist.gov;
>ksankar@cisco.com
>Subject: Teleconference : RIM discussion
>
>
>Based on the emails, I realized the only time this will work is Tuesday
>afternoon.
>I have set the teleconference meeting for 12:30-4pm CDT (please note
CDT)
>
>The dialup information is:
>USA: 800.892.0357
>Sorry no toll-free for International callers: usa 612.352.7899
>Meeting ID #6478
>5 locations setup
>
>Farrukh will send out the VNC information.
>
>Scott
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Yutaka Yoshida [mailto:Yutaka.Yoshida@eng.sun.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 5:12 PM
>To: Farrukh.Najmi@east.sun.com; Scott.Nieman@NorstanConsulting.com
>Cc: LGallagher@nist.gov; ksankar@cisco.com
>Subject: Re: Urgent: We need to work together
>
>
>So, three of us is obviously not a quorum, did we decided that
>we won't have f2f?
>
>If so, I'll be free on
>Mon - all day
>Tue - all day
>Wed - from afternoon.
>
>yuta
>
> > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:25:20 -0500
> > From: Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@east.sun.com>
> >
> > I am free all of Tuesday Dec 19. Scott can you pick a time an let us
>know.
>Can
> > you call my home and confrenece me in (781-942-7277)?
> >
> > "Nieman, Scott" wrote:
> >
> > > VNC works for me.  Have it on my laptop already.
> > >
> > > but next week please, anyday starting next Monday.  This week is
very
> > > problematic.
> > > I will coordinate the telecon once specific times are nailed down.
>Tuesday
> > > Wednesday I can only go until 4pm CDT.
> > >
> > > also, I have a free weekend so I will be reviewing specs.
> > >
> > > Quickly glanced the Security spec, I think the content is looking
very
>good.
> > > Some minor inconsistency in naming. Needs to be incorporated in
the
>Registry
> > > Services spec as a chapter.  and the class diagram into the RIM.
> > >
> > > off to another meeting...
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@east.sun.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:24 AM
> > > To: Nieman, Scott
> > > Cc: 'Farrukh Najmi'; Len Gallagher; Yutaka Yoshida; Krishna Sankar
> > > Subject: Re: Urgent: We need to work together
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > I am not sure if Krishna can attend the f2f. He has not said so.
That
>leaves
> > > Len, Yuta and I. Is this a quorom? If so I will make the
arrangements.
> > >
> > > If not a quorom, can we instead have a VNC (shared computer
screen)
>based
> > > phone
> > > meeting this week. This would have to be from my home due to
>open-subnet
> > > access.
> > > You could set up a telecon and then call me and patch me in. Folks
>could
> > > access
> > > my screen over a web browser. We could see how many connections we
can
> > > tolerate
> > > with adequate performance (my guess is 4).
> > >
> > > Finally, Guys, I want your thoughts on the "IM take 3" proposal.
Any of
>you
> > > guys, feel free to call me rather than email. 781-442-0703. I am
busing
> > > between
> > > 2:30-4pm EST.
> > >
> > > I hope Len feels better soon. he is down with the flu.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Farrukh
> > >
> > > "Nieman, Scott" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am back.  OK.  I have some troubles attending this f2f, partly
due
>to
>my
> > > > daughter and ex, but mostly due to end of year budgetary
concerns (I
>spent
> > > > too much this quarter according to my boss, oops).
> > > >
> > > > I would like a compromise, as I think the f2f should still occur
>depending
> > > > if key individuals are present.  I could host the
teleconferencing
> > > services
> > > > each day (say 3 hours per day to recap/summarize positions, to
>resolve
> > > > issues, vote etc.).  However, it would also be good to use webex
or
>some
> > > > interactive presentation capabilities.  Here I propose that Sun
host
>the
> > > > webex capability during the teleconference period.  This would
also
>make
> > > > Joel from Intel happy too.
> > > >
> > > > My feeling is that Len, Farrukh and Krishna could finalize the
RIM.
>I
> > > have
> > > > just a few comments on it which I will post to the list, which
in
>summary
> > > is
> > > > that it seems to work in its current state and may be good
enough for
> > > v1.0.
> > > > I do believe Len needs ample time to present his viewpoints,
likely
>on
>the
> > > > teleconference.  Tuesday could be a 5 hour teleconference if
needed.
> > > >
> > > > are you OK with this approach???
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@east.sun.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:29 AM
> > > > To: Len Gallagher
> > > > Cc: Farrukh Najmi; Nieman, Scott; Yutaka Yoshida
> > > > Subject: Re: Urgent: We need to work together
> > > >
> > > > Len,
> > > >
> > > > Hope you beat this flu soon and get lots of rest in the interim.
Let
>me
> > > know
> > > > when your are well enough to do an exercise similar to what we
did
>last
> > > week
> > > > on
> > > > attemting to reach a common understanding.
> > > >
> > > > I am suspecting Scott is traveling since I have not heard back
in a
>while.
> > > > Yuta
> > > > can you work with Scott to get a public decision on the f2f
today.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Farrukh
> > > >
> > > > Len Gallagher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > All,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm at home with the flu today so won't be answering my phone
at
>NIST
> > > > > today. But I will be checking email at various times during
the
>day.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can still make the F2F next week if it happens.  Scott -
you'll
>decide
> > > > if
> > > > > it's feasible to meet and make an announcement very soon won't
you?
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Len
> > > > >
> > > > > At 12:10 PM 12/12/00 -0500, Farrukh Najmi wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I am sending this private message to you since for better or
for
>worse
> > > > > >IMHO we are the core of people in the group that need to come
to a
> > > > > >unified position if the spec work will be done in time. I
would
>like
>us
> > > > > >to arrange for a 3 hour meeting over the phone where we can
do a
> > > similar
> > > > > >exercise as Len and I did on the info model (sharing my
screen so
>we
> > > all
> > > > > >see the same thing). I will need to work from home due to
firewall
> > > > > >issues. One of you (Scott?) could call in to my home numebr
at the
> > > > > >designated time and conference in the other parties. We could
then
>
>work
> > > > > >out the details remaining on teh info model. This does not
>alleviate
> > > the
> > > > > >need for an f2f. However, if we can agree on the info base
model
>we
>can
> > > > > >then make progress on other fronts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Otherwise we will stay exactly where we left off and will not
make
>our
> > > > > >deadline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >Regards,
> > > > > >Farrukh
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Farrukh
> >
> >
>