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Subject: RE: vOTE CALL: RE: Counter Proposal Paper Draft 0.9
I encourage you all to take enough time to consider all proposals and come to the best solution. We've got until May, afterall. Bob Sutor, IBM Vice-Chair, ebXML -----Original Message----- From: David RR Webber [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:29 AM To: Farrukh Najmi Cc: 'ebxml repository ' Subject: Re: vOTE CALL: RE: Counter Proposal Paper Draft 0.9 Message text written by Farrukh Najmi >> I recommend a NO vote because: > - Its not obvious to my how this proposal is better than the existing > proposal (from a pros cons point of view). > - the state of this document needs work > - the estimated time to incorporate this document is great > - the "dynamics" of this project team reminds me of a bunch of old mules > that prevent us from agreeing on a quick path > > We'll have more time to talk later about this document, as I want more > information such as the origin etc. I do see some interesting use cases, > but again, not enough time. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Halleluh - what a surprise - and my prediction hath come to pass. Privately I made the prediction on Monday that - once I had busted my chops this week and hustled on all this - the final analysis from the Sun bastion would be - we have not had enough time, there is not enough time, there's not been enough time spent on this. Frankly this is a tired and broken record. Let's see now - 20 odd methods - 5 odd people, 4 a piece. If we focus in on REALLY getting an abstraction layer API built here - it is possible. However - at the start of the week I had plenty of specific detail 'Oh - you're inventing your own scripting process / query syntax", now I've attempt to listen to that by allowing implementors to specify that in a programming tool of their choice 'Oh - its too vague, it does not give specifics'. Ok - well the bottom line for me is that OQL query statements is something no DBA worth their salt would allow against a backend server over an open channel. So what's it to be? I can add more specifics back in - but then I am I going to hear shouts of 'foul' again? Someone else can run round the track, work up a sweat, be pelted with rocks, and then told to run round the opposite way this time. Thanks, DW.
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