RE: updated requirements specification

[Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM <mwsachs@us.ibm.com>]

In my responses to David Burdett's proposed definitions, I had one error,
regarding "Service Interface".  Stefano is using the term "Business Service
Interface" to refer to a B2B implementation.  However if "Service
Interface" is already "reserved" to refer to the API function  for the
Messaging Service (or perhaps for any layer), the term "Business Service
Interface" may be what we want in the CPP and CPA.  We could find another
term for the B2B implementation.

Regards,
Marty

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Martin W. Sachs
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
P. O. B. 704
Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
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03:29 PM ---------------------------

Martin W Sachs
10/19/2000 01:21 PM

To:   "Burdett, David" <david.burdett@commerceone.com>
cc:   ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org, dan@vcheq.com
From: Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
Subject:  RE: updated requirements specification  (Document link: Martin W.
      Sachs)

David,

The appended contains some very good suggestions.

Here are my replies.

Regards,
Marty

(See attached file: TP Definitions MWS Resp.doc)

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Martin W. Sachs
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
P. O. B. 704
Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
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"Burdett, David" <david.burdett@commerceone.com> on 10/18/2000 01:00:56 AM

To:   Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS, ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org
cc:   dan@vcheq.com
Subject:  RE: updated requirements specification



I know that ...
a) I raised the issue about the confusion in terminology between Party and
Partner, and
b) I couldn't make the F2F to suggest that we stay with Party
... but the current requirements document is very wooly on definitions.
Specifically  it says in items 3 and 4 ...

>>>4.     Party. A Party is an entity such as a company, department,
organization or individual that can generate, receive or relay Documents.
5.   Partner. A Partner is a Party that can engage in transactions with
another Partner. <<<

What is not defined anywhere as far as I can see is what is meant by
"transactions". The word is used in the opening paragraph as in ...

>>>a Trading Partner is an entity that engages in commercial transactions
with other Trading Partners<<<

One of the cardinal rules, IMO, of definitions is that they should be
cumulative, i.e. you don't use a term until you have defined it. The
current
document is circular in that Collaborative Process uses CPA before we've
defined it, yet CPA relies on a definition of Collaborative Protocol that
depends on a definition of Collaborative Process.

This means that the definitions should be more along the lines of the
attached document.

Thoughts?

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM [mailto:mwsachs@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:39 PM
To: ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org
Cc: dan@vcheq.com
Subject: updated requirements specification


Attached is our partner-requirements specification, updated per the
discussion at last weeks Face to Face meeting (described in the minutes).
As previously mentioned, Daniel Ling will immediately convert the format to
the official ebXML format and I will then begin the approval process.

This does not cut off discussion but it does assure that we have this
specification on the path to approval for the Tokyo meeting.  The results
of discussion of this version will be applied to a later version.

I have not marked the changes.  Last week's discussion resulted in many
small changes and a few significant ones.  It needs to be reviewed in full.
One particular change is that the term "Trading-Partner Agreement" is
re-introduced per the request of Klaus Naujok. A Trading-Partner Agreement
includes a Collaboration Protocol Agreement and higher-level business
information.

Regards,
Marty

(See attached file: partner-requirements.doc)

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Martin W. Sachs
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
P. O. B. 704
Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
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TP Definitions MWS Resp.doc