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Subject: Re: TPA Formation Track in POC



Apologies if this off-key. I am coming up to speed with where TP is at. 
Will this just be a re-badging of the TpaML spec or will it take into
account the outcome of the TP F2F where CPP and CPA structures were
discussed?

Sean


Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM wrote:
> 
> The main change to the technology in this pass is replacing TPA by CPA
> (this one shows in the DTD and XML TPA).  Other changes are strictly minor
> textual reorganizations and fixing a couple of places in the DTD that had
> cardinality "one or more" when it should have been exactly 2.
> 
> As I said, I don't mind not rocking the boat; I just wanted to be sure that
> the POC team knows it can replace references to the IBM proposal by
> references to an ebXML document.
> 
> Regard,
> Marty
> 
> *************************************************************************************
> 
> Martin W. Sachs
> IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
> P. O. B. 704
> Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
> 914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
> Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
> Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
> *************************************************************************************
> 
> Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM@IBMUS on 10/25/2000 09:53:56 AM
> 
> To:   Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
> cc:   Krishna Sankar <ksankar@cisco.com>, mark.hale@ajubasolutions.com,
>       Ebxml-Tp <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>, ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org, Nick
>       Kassem <nick.kassem@eng.sun.com>, Sigmund Handelman/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
> Subject:  RE: TPA Formation Track in POC
> 
> I'm ok as long as the technology does not change including current
> terminology.
> 
> Scott Hinkelman, Senior Software Engineer
> XML Industry Enablement
> IBM e-business Standards Strategy
> 512-823-8097 (TL 793-8097) (Cell: 512-940-0519)
> srh@us.ibm.com, Fax: 512-838-1074
> 
> Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS on 10/24/2000 05:13:48 PM
> 
> To:   Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
> cc:   Krishna Sankar <ksankar@cisco.com>, mark.hale@ajubasolutions.com,
>       Ebxml-Tp <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>, ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org, Nick
>       Kassem <nick.kassem@eng.sun.com>, Sigmund Handelman/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
> Subject:  RE: TPA Formation Track in POC
> 
> The version 0.0 document will be in the TP team's private page by the end
> of the week, clothed its beautiful new ebXML cover, if I don't have too
> many interruptions.
> 
> My suggestion was based on the presumed desirability of referencing an
> ebXML document rather than an IBM document but if everyone is content to
> leave it as is, so am I.
> 
> FYI, the ebXML-ized spec is
> 
>         Collaboration-Protocol Profile and Agreement Specification
>                                 Version 0.0
> 
> *************************************************************************************
> 
> Martin W. Sachs
> IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
> P. O. B. 704
> Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
> 914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
> Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
> Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
> *************************************************************************************
> 
> Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM@IBMUS on 10/24/2000 11:06:26 AM
> 
> To:   Krishna Sankar <ksankar@cisco.com>
> cc:   Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM <mwsachs@us.ibm.com>,
>       mark.hale@ajubasolutions.com, Ebxml-Tp <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>,
>       ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org, Nick Kassem <nick.kassem@eng.sun.com>,
>       Sigmund Handelman/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
> Subject:  RE: TPA Formation Track in POC
> 
> I would consider this type of change artificial at this point given Nov 6.
> 
> Scott Hinkelman, Senior Software Engineer
> XML Industry Enablement
> IBM e-business Standards Strategy
> 512-823-8097 (TL 793-8097) (Cell: 512-940-0519)
> srh@us.ibm.com, Fax: 512-838-1074
> 
> Krishna Sankar <ksankar@cisco.com> on 10/23/2000 08:40:54 PM
> 
> To:   Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS, mark.hale@ajubasolutions.com
> cc:   Ebxml-Tp <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>, ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org, Nick
>       Kassem <nick.kassem@eng.sun.com>, Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM@IBMUS,
>       Sigmund Handelman/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
> Subject:  RE: TPA Formation Track in POC
> 
> Marty/Mark,
> 
>      There are a few places in the POC document where TPA and PP are
> mentioned.
> There are a few xml documents where we need the "tpa_1_0_6.dtd". Either we
> change all references to the new ones (whatever they are) or keep the old
> ones. The diagrams and the write-ups as well as the dtds should reflect the
> same vocabulary.
> 
>      I suggest we keep the old ones (TPA,PP et al) unless we have the
> version
> 0.0 documents including the DTD. We want a consistent terminology across
> all
> our documents.
> 
>      Cheers
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM [mailto:mwsachs@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 12:08 PM
> To: mark.hale@ajubasolutions.com
> Cc: Ebxml-Tp; ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org; Nick Kassem; Scott
> Hinkelman/Austin/IBM; Sigmund Handelman/Watson/IBM
> Subject: Re: TPA Formation Track in POC
> 
> This writeup looks good and is in reasonable accord with the current TP
> team thinking and terminology.  I have the following suggestions:
> 
>    The TP team has agreed to adopted the tpaML proposal as version 0.0 of
>    its specification.  We will have version 0.0 (with an ebXML cover and a
>    new title) for the Tokyo meeting.  Therefore, I suggest replacing all
>    reference to tpaML 1.0.6 by "ebXML Trading-Partner Specification, ver.
>    0.0".
> 
>    In the figure, I suggest replacing PP by CPP in all boxes, to match the
>    terminology in the writeup and that used by the TP team.
> 
> Regards,
> Marty
> 
> ****************************************************************************
> 
> *********
> 
> Martin W. Sachs
> IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
> P. O. B. 704
> Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
> 914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
> Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
> Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
> ****************************************************************************
> 
> *********
> 
> Mark Hale <mark.hale@ajubasolutions.com> on 10/23/2000 12:52:27 PM
> 
> Please respond to mark.hale@ajubasolutions.com
> 
> To:   Ebxml-Tp <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>, ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org
> cc:   Nick Kassem <nick.kassem@eng.sun.com>
> Subject:  TPA Formation Track in POC
> 
> In the POC, we have been working to finalize the tracks that will be
> demonstrated and met for a F2F this past week.  There will be three Tracks
> in the POC:
> 
>      Track 1:  TPA Formation
>      Track 2:  Retail Industry Use Case
>      Track 3:  Automotive Industry Use Case
> 
> I've re-written the TPA Formation track to be consistent with terminology
> found in the other working groups.  I ask you to please review the attached
> document and make comments.  Please keep in mind that the POC does not
> write
> specifications but, rather, implements them.  We tried our best to assemble
> a baseline that represented the workings of BP/TP that ties into the other
> two tracks.  We hope to see the scenario expanded in Vancouver.
> 
> Please post comments to ebxml-poc@lists.ebxml.org.
> 
>      Thanks,
> 
>      Mark
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
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