RE: Special note for CPP members

[Martin W Sachs <mwsachs@us.ibm.com>]

Becky,

You need not apologize.  I'm sure you can state your concerns as crisply as
anyone else.  I look forward to dialoge with you on the TP list.

Regards,
Marty

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Martin W. Sachs
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
P. O. B. 704
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Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
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Rebecca Reed <rreed@mercator.com> on 01/30/2001 05:31:31 PM

To:   Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
cc:   "''Duane Nickull ' '" <duane@xmlglobal.com>,
      "''ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org ' '" <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>
Subject:  RE: Special note for CPP members



 Marty

I do humbly apologize for jumping out of protocol.  I have just been
struggling with how to automate the creation of a CPA - much along the
lines
of the way another vendor was substituted using UDDI during the OAG Vendor
Challenge in November.  Working at the architecture and integration level
and not the implementation level for the past several years has hampered my
ability to crisply state my issue that I thought Duane represented quite
well.

I understand that things must be done in stages and the first stage of
articulating the CPP and CPA in a useful manner is of paramount importance.
I don't want to interfere with the excellent work that has been done or add
another burden.  I agree that just being able to implement a CPA that two
human beings have negotiated is an excellent and necessary first step.  I
didn't mean to jump to a future requirement as an urgent need and perhaps
given all the work you are doing to prepare for Vancouver I just cluttered
up email space that is better served with comments from the experts.

Becky

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin W Sachs
To: Rebecca Reed
Cc: 'Duane Nickull '; 'ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org '
Sent: 1/30/01 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: Special note for CPP members


Becky,

If you have concerns about the CPP and CPA that you can articulate, the
place to present them is on the TP listserver so that the team can
review
and consider them in designing the CPP and CPA.

Regards,
Marty
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Martin W. Sachs
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
P. O. B. 704
Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
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Rebecca Reed <rreed@mercator.com> on 01/30/2001 08:16:53 AM

To:   "'Duane Nickull '" <duane@xmlglobal.com>,
"'ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org
      '" <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>
cc:
Subject:  RE: Special note for CPP members



 Thanks Duane
As I have read through the drafts I have wondered how we would build CPA
generation into our Commerce Broker capabilities - wasn't intuitive from
the
documents.  We need a scripted process that sets precedents and
priorities
correctly so that any system can reach the same results for a generated
CPA.

Becky Reed
Senior Architect
Mercator Software.

-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Nickull
To: ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org
Sent: 1/29/01 5:40 PM
Subject: Special note for CPP members

Hello all:

As we conclude the TA Specification and the disposition of comments, it
has become apparent that there is a potential shortcoming on
specifications regarding the Trading Partner issues, specifically
concerning CPA generation from CPP's and business processes.  In order
to facilitate CPA negotiation,  people who are building reference
implementations have informed us that they believe it is necessary to
observe a standard protocol for deriving a CPA from CPP's.

Therefore,  we have added two small sections to the technical
architecture specification (NOTE: not officially approved by the TA team
yet) which read as follows:

"CPA negotiation SHALL be strictly defined.   Issues such a precedence,
prioritization and the mechanics of the negotiation process SHALL be
addressed in the ebXML Specifications governing Collaborative Protocol
Agreements."

"A CPA negotiation protocol SHALL be defined by the ebXML TP Project
Team."

Comments please? (Today if possible)

Duane Nickull
TA Team