RE: How simple is the simple in KISS

[David Burdett <david.burdett@commerceone.com>]

Not really.

Message headers, in my view simply involves the definition of the content
and structure of the header that must go with a document

Reliable messaging is the active process of waiting for a response to a
message and then, if a response does not arrive within the expected
timescales, fixing the problem. Fixing the problem can include:
1. Simply resending the message, or
2. Doing an inquiry on the destination to see if they got the message - have
a look at the IETF XML Messaging Internet Draft for a fuller explanation of
the ideas here.

So really Message Headers is all about defining the data, and Reliable
Messaging about defining the process.

Regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Jenkins Gordon [mailto:gjenkins@singnet.com.sg]
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 11:22 PM
To: David Burdett; ebXML Transport (E-mail)
Subject: Re: How simple is the simple in KISS


David

Are not Items 1 and 2 the same - or close to the same?

Regards

Gord

Gordon Jenkins
Standard Chartered Bank C&IB
Senior Product Manager: Electronic Commerce
51 Bras Basah
SINGAPORE 189554

Email : gjenkins@singnet.com.sg

Tel :65-331 5095
----- Original Message -----
From: David Burdett <david.burdett@commerceone.com>
To: ebXML Transport (E-mail) <ebXML-Transport@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 1:53 PM
Subject: How simple is the simple in KISS


> There has been a lot of recent discussion about KISS on the list that I
> whole-heartedly support.
>
> However we must NOT make it so simple that it does not meet minimum
> requirements. So, for what it's worth, here are my **minimum**
requirements
> for ebXML Transport. We need to develop specifications for:
>
> 1. Message Headers. The additional data that must be associated with a
> document so that it can be sent a third party and successfully processed -
> we're working on this
> 2. Reliable Messaging. If for some reason, a message does not get through
to
> it's destination, then we can identify the problem and recover from it in
a
> way that does not rely on proprietary reliable messaging protocols.
> 3. Security. We need to know that a message has not changed and is
> authentic, i.e. it has come from the organization or individual it appears
> to have come from
>
> I know that requirements 2 and 3 are not **always** required, but I think
> that in B2B they will be so frequently required that we will not be get
> widespread adoption of ebXML Transport without them.
>
> What does everyone else think?
>
> David
>
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