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Subject: Re: ebXML TR&P Interoperabiltiy event


Ok, I can understand that.
Jerry

Samantha Rolefes wrote:

> Using a RosettaNet PIP, doesn't mean we're ruling out the OTA. It just shows
> interoperaboility using another standard, which I think is a stronger story
> for ebXML.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry L. Brown [mailto:jerry.brown@sabre.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:11 PM
> > To: Nicholas Kassem
> > Cc: marcb@webmethods.com; ebxml-transport@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: Re: ebXML TR&P Interoperabiltiy event
> >
> >
> > Would it be somewhat premature to rule out OTA.  There has
> > been a lot of public
> > endorsement of cooperation between OTA and ebXML.  Would we
> > be dumping OTA to go to
> > RosettaNet just because of the familiarity factor?  The world
> > was looking very
> > closely to the demo in Brussels and to make any changes at
> > this point I'd like to
> > hear a take from more of the group including Rick.  And I'd
> > like to hear Scott
> > Hinkleman's take on this as well.
> > Thanks..
> > Jerry
> >
> > Nicholas Kassem wrote:
> >
> > > Seems like a reasonable suggestion to me.
> > >
> > > I expect to be able to announce the creation of the
> > ebxml-poc (proof of
> > > concept) discussion list shortly. Karl Best is setting up
> > this at the OASIS
> > > end. Once we get a better sense of who will be stepping up
> > to participate
> > > in the interoperability event we can close on the payload
> > issue quickly (I
> > > hope).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > At 01:28 PM 6/22/2000 -0400, Christopher Ferris wrote:
> > > >This works for me! ;-)
> > > >
> > > >Marc Breissinger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I know we picked OTA in an earlier round, but might I suggest we
> > > > utilize PIP
> > > > > 3A4 from RosettaNet instead.  The process interaction
> > definition is much
> > > > > more complete which will save confusion and the vendors
> > who might implement
> > > > > in this event are already intimately familiar with it.
> > Further, it would
> > > > > show how easily ebXML TRP could replace RNIF in the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > marc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > ==============================================================
> > ============
> > > > > Marc Breissinger
> > voice (W): 703-460-2504
> > > > > Director, Product Strategy - webMethods, Inc.
> > voice (C): 703-989-7689
> > > > > Email:  marcb@webmethods.com
> >    We're hiring!!!
> > > > > Email2: breissim@earthlink.net              URL:
> > http://www.webmethods.com
> > > > >
> > ==============================================================
> > ============
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-ebxml-transport@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-ebxml-transport@lists.oasis-open.org]On
> > Behalf Of Nicholas
> > > > > > Kassem
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:41 PM
> > > > > > To: mwsachs@us.ibm.com
> > > > > > Cc: ebXML Transport
> > > > > > Subject: Re: ebXML TR&P Interoperabiltiy event
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 08:28 AM 6/20/2000 -0400, mwsachs@us.ibm.com wrote:
> > > > > > >Any need to share code or hardware in the real world
> > will defeat
> > > > > > the whole
> > > > > > >purpose of ebXML.  One of the most important requirements on
> > > > > > what we in IBM
> > > > > > >Research are doing with tpaML and its runtime is
> > that there must be no
> > > > > > >requirement for a pair of partners to use the same
> > application code,
> > > > > > >run-time middleware, or hardware.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Agreed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >If anyone is really worried about IP in the business
> > process area, build
> > > > > > >the demo based on the business process layer of a
> > public-domain protocol
> > > > > > >such as OBI.  It wouldn't be OBI because it would
> > have ebXML messaging
> > > > > > >instead of the current OBI messaging but it should
> > avoid any IP
> > > > > > hassles at
> > > > > > >the business process layer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We picked the OTA work in an earlier prototype to
> > demonstrate some higher
> > > > > > level notions (transport neutrality, role of ebXML TR&P, ebXML
> > > > > > value-proposition etc. etc.) I think we are now
> > passed that point but I
> > > > > > think there are still some engineering level details
> > that need to
> > > > > > be worked
> > > > > > out. Hence my earlier post / invitation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nick
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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