Re: Charset II - defn.

[Christopher Ferris <chris.ferris@east.sun.com>]

I prefer option 1 as well.

No argument here;-)

Chris

ian.c.jones@bt.com wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
>         I agree that the simplest way to "Fix" this is to mandate the XML
> prologue for the message header document in section 3 of the specification.
> 
>         I have 2 possible views:
> 1. In the prologue of the header the XML "encoding=" must be specified.
> 2. In the prologue of the header the XML "encoding=" must be specified if
> the encoding is NOT UTF-8.
> 
>         I prefer the 1st case but I know no matter what we say someone will
> complain, from experience inserting the "encoding" even when not required by
> the XML 1.0 spec. has stopped spurious errors when using some parsers.  My
> response is, "WE, are defining the ebXML header document and want maximum
> interoperability with as little optionality as possible".  So just like EDI
> if we wanted to make an optional field mandatory for good business reason we
> did!
> 
>         Comments?  Arguments? Flames etc.??
> 
> Ian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Brooks [mailto:dick@8760.com]
> Sent: 31 August 2000 17:25
> To: Christopher Ferris
> Cc: ian.c.jones; ebxml-transport
> Subject: RE: Charset II - defn.
> 
> Chris,
> 
> I totally agree, if the encoding attribute is "REQUIRED" in the prolog of
> the ebXML header document then Ian's text can remain unchanged!
> 
> Dick Brooks
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Ferris [mailto:chris.ferris@east.sun.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 11:16 AM
> > To: Dick Brooks
> > Cc: ian.c.jones@bt.com; ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org
> > Subject: Re: Charset II - defn.
> >
> >
> > Dick,
> >
> > The encoding attribute in the prolog is optional, but
> > there is a default value as per your last email with the
> > BOM, etc.
> >
> > Now, what we could do is have the encoding attribute
> > required for ebXMLHeader document and that would end
> > the discussion.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Dick Brooks wrote:
> > >
> > > Ian,
> > >
> > > The encoding attribute of the XML prolog is "optional", are we going to
> > > REQUIRE this within the ebXML header document?
> > > If not then we should reword to:
> > > "SHALL be equivalent to the encoding attribute, when present,
> > in the ebXML
> > > message Header XML Document"
> > >
> > > Dick Brooks
> > > Group 8760
> > > 110 12th Street North
> > > Birmingham, AL 35203
> > > dick@8760.com
> > > 205-250-8053
> > > Fax: 205-250-8057
> > > http://www.8760.com/
> > >
> > > InsideAgent - Empowering e-commerce solutions
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ian.c.jones@bt.com [mailto:ian.c.jones@bt.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 10:20 AM
> > > > To: ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org
> > > > Subject: Charset II - defn.
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > >       after discussion today lets try this:
> > > >
> > > > The charset attribute SHALL be equivalent to the encoding
> > attribute of the
> > > > ebXML message Header XML Document (described in section 3).
> > For maximum
> > > > interoperability it is RECOMMENDED that UTF-8 be used.  Note:
> > this is not
> > > > the default for MIME
> > > >
> > > > Ian Jones
> > > >
> >
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