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Subject: RE: Feedback on the MSS draft - document layout issues
we understand that this format is not usable in ietf, but it is much more readable. assuming that ned and others involved in the decision to let this be under two existing ietf workgroups, ediint and iotp, still stands, we understand we will have to make it fit the ietf format..... additionally, just to make.... sure you are responding on the version 0.21 draft correct? thanks for the input. many of these comments we will have to be handled in tokyo...... best regards, rik -----Original Message----- From: Steve Hole [mailto:steve.hole@messagingdirect.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 6:11 PM To: ebXML Transport Subject: Feedback on the MSS draft - document layout issues 1. You will have to be careful about markup for IETF standards track. Specifically there are some rules regarding use of graphics and use of bold/italics/underline. You should go to the IETF web pages and look at the rules for IETF draft submission. It will explain everything that you need to know. And yes, I do agree that the representation is a bit archaic, but that's not really the point. Document format is not the hill to die on when trying to get something on the standards track. Those are best fought when it is someone else's document that will get held up in process :-) 2. Recommend splitting Section 4.1 into two sections: 4.1 Summary of Contents 4.2 Document Conventions 3. Recommend that the sections in 5.1 that deal with "what this document contains" should be moved to section 4.1. 4. Recommend that the remaining "Design Objectives" section be moved as first subsection of System Overview. 5. The System Overview section is arguably one of the most important sections in the whole document, but (sorry) it really says nothing. Motherhood statements will only fly in the first paragraph of a top level section. If it is this way simply because the document is early on, then that's fine. If this was thought to be complete, then I would disagree and add a lot of content (in no particular order): - Definition of roles in the messaging system. - Definition of terms like "payload", "sender", "receiver", "transport" etc. - Definition of data flows through the system. - Definition of *location* of interfaces. - Definition of interaction with other ebXML components - Example usage scenarios (intranet, extranet) - Itemization of requirements (should be in the Design Objectives probably). - A graphical system model/diagram. 6. I see very little about transport bindings in the "specification" part of this document although there are some decent examples. Recommend that a Transport Binding section be added after the "ebXML Header Document" section that defines the semantics of using an ebXML MIME object on that transport. Appendix E appears to be the location for this, and I would suggest that it be a main body section in its own right. 7. Section 7 "Definition and Scope" is mis-titled. I would suggest "ebxml Packaging - Envelopes and Containers" or something like that -- something that reflects what is actually being defined. This SHOULD correlate to what the Design Objectives says the document defines. 8. When making normative references to standardized MIME headers and the MIME spec, resist the temptation to re-specify the function of the header. The normative reference is enough. If you get it wrong, then you have conflict between this specification and MIME and that will not be good. Just call the MIME subroutine. Specifically, remove the sections on the "boundary" attribute. Define only the headers and parameters that are specific to ebXML and that it will be the normative reference for. You can and should say "all mandatory headers as defined by [MIME] as well as the following ...". Examples can show the complete set. 9. The terminology for Envelope, Container and Body Part is used inconsistently. Based on my experience with other MIME multipart bindings, this really messes implementors up. I personally like the term Container -- it has less baggage than Envelope. It is easy to bind specific MIME message parts to a container object in your format model. I can contribute some text here if you like. Not today though, I'm busy being a critic today. 10. The ebXML participants should be relegated to an appendix. Interesting, but probably only to the participants. 11. Appendix C is interesting and useful, but probably should be relegated to a separate historical document. I think that it is important to document, but shouldn't clutter up a technical specification for implementors. In the IETF, "model documents" or informational RFC's are often used for this purpose. 12. It seems to me that some of the Appendix D stuff goes directly to requirements and may be a candidate for the system overview section. It is certainly relevant to usage scenarios. The parts of Appendix D that discuss the history and how the decision was reached should also be relegated to an external document rather than be retained here. --- Steve Hole Messaging Direct Mailto:Steve.Hole@MessagingDirect.com Phone: 780-424-4922
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