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Subject: RE: ebXML will end up being too expensive for small business
The transport and routing group of ebxml is ensuring that sme's will be able to use the infrastructure in a depreciated mode.. i.e., one that offers the basic functionality, without the overhead. this is especially important since in ec way over one half of all business are sme's.. it is important to keep this issue in front of the ebxml designers... however to conclude the issue is not being addressed... is incorrect.... rik -----Original Message----- From: owner-ebxml@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:owner-ebxml@lists.oasis-open.org]On Behalf Of Wes Rishel Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 3:53 PM To: William J. Kammerer; ebXML List Subject: Re: ebXML will end up being too expensive for small business It should be noted that Mr. Boyle's signature file is associated with some proprietary approach to using XML for small business accounting. This does not automatically bias his comments, but it must considered. I think that Boyle misses the importance of the Internet and co-evolution we are seeing on several fronts. Much of the investment for using EDI came from several requirements that seem to be changing. The requirements were a) private networks for secure transaction routing b) analytic support to create workable bilalateral specifications on top of the standards c) the requirement for special tools to deal with EDI syntax d) operational support to monitor and troubleshoot on-line transaction exchange e) legal support required to do business electronically, since electronic business was not covered by the Universal Commercial Code f) the lack of automated support for the underlying applications in small businesses. Other than legal, these issues were largely addressed by clearinghouses. The economics required a substantial transaction volume to justify the startup effort. a) Private Networks Most PCs are equipped with the technology they need to be on the "N" side of "1-N" interchanges using HTTP. The ebXML Transport specification supplements the Internet protocols to create secure, non-repudiatable, compressed transactions. Will there be software tools that operate in Windows environments and provide simple interfaces for to accept data and perform an ebXML exchange with an arbitrary URL? You betcha. b) Multilateral Agreements The lack of standards is an issue; it is particularly difficult, if not impossible, to create standards of widespread utility that do not require some customization for specific applications. What might substitute for standards? Here is one scenario. ChannelMaster vendors (the "1" side of the "1-N" relationship) is able provide an XML 1.0 Schemas that provides their interpretation of the transaction, and some kind of certification facility to test transactions before going live, and applications that cater to small business provide customized interfaces to the ChannelMasters. Application vendors that target small businesses provide support for the schemas of the major ChannelMasters, as Quicken does now for on-line banking. This scenario demonstrates that considerable smallbiz-ebiz commerce can be facilitated by the "reverse Burger King" approach (Have it Our Way). Here is another scenario. ASP application vendors targeting small busineses create prefab trading partner agreements with ChannelMasters. Small businesses experience the e-biz benefits as a side effect of using the ASP. The last scenario is more controversial. It involves small businesses that "roll their own" applications having good tooling to support e-biz with ChannelMasters and other small busineses. Absent standards this is more problematical, although I personally believe it will happen. One caveat: for any of this to happen we have got to advance PKI much farther then its current dismal state. c) special tools to deal for EDI syntax Surely no-one doubts that an immediate consequence of the rush to XML is the availability of low-cost tools. Even if they don't, two of the three scenarios above don't place any requirement on the small business to use the syntax. d) operational support to monitor and troubleshoot on-line transaction exchange For small businesses, there is less need for "lights-out" operation. During the time when the payroll data is uploaded using HTTP, the bookkeeper watches the screen, and prints out the receipt that was generated. (Etc.) e) legal support because of problems with the Universal Commercial Code I hear that the UCC is being amended to support E-Biz f) the lack of automated support for the underlying applications in small businesses. (This was addressed under "b".) Summary Co-evolution on many fronts serve to change the e-biz economics for small businesses when compared to EDI over private networks. Wes Rishel wes@rishel.com wes.rishel@gartner.com At 6/1/00 04:57 PM-0400, William J. Kammerer wrote: >Seen on comp.text.xml on 18 May 2000: "ebXML will take another year, >and will be the future platform for enterprise scale companies and >entities...ebXML will end up being too expensive for small business, and >very similar to EDI which preceded it," by Todd F. Boyle, at >http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=624807728&fmt=text. > >Can this possibly be true? What have we wrought? If only >"enterprise-scale" entities can use it, what about ebXML's promise to >bring B2B interoperability to the masses? > >William J. Kammerer >FORESIGHT Corp. >4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy. >Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305 >(614) 791-1600 > >Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/ >"Commerce for a New World" > ---------- Wes Rishel Research Director Healthcare Industry Research & Advisory Services GartnerGroup Alameda, CA wes@rishel.com (for general correspondence) wes.rishel@gartner.com (for GG business) http://www.rishel.com 510 522 8135 ----- This message does not represent an opinion of The GartnerGroup, or any other organization. ======================================================================= = This is ebXML, the general mailing list for the ebXML committee = = The owner of this list is owner-ebxml@oasis-open.org = = = = To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.oasis-open.org with = = the following in the body of the message: = = unsubscribe ebxml = = If you are subscribed using a different email address, put the = = address you subscribed with at the end of the line; e.g. = = unsubscribe ebxml myname@company.com = ======================================================================= ======================================================================= = This is ebXML, the general mailing list for the ebXML committee = = The owner of this list is owner-ebxml@oasis-open.org = = = = To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.oasis-open.org with = = the following in the body of the message: = = unsubscribe ebxml = = If you are subscribed using a different email address, put the = = address you subscribed with at the end of the line; e.g. = = unsubscribe ebxml myname@company.com = =======================================================================
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