RE: draft of press reease

["Rachel Foerster" <rachelf@ix.netcom.com>]

In response to getting additional quotes from Pat O'Sulli8van and/or
RosettaNet, does anyone have a line of contact in to these folks and would
they be able to get a quote for the press release. If yes, we need it as
quickly as possible.

Thanks,

Rachel

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> I forgot to make one other point.
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> Bob's suggestion of Pat O'Sullivan is an excellent one, and
> we want to make
> sure
> that we play up both the Intel and RosettaNet aspects, perhaps even
> RosettaNet
> first.
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> ---------------------- Forwarded by Robert S Sutor/Watson/IBM
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> To:   Bob Glushko <Bob.glushko@commerceone.com>,
>       ebXML-Awareness@lists.oasis-open.org
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> From: Robert S Sutor/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
> Subject:  Re: draft of press reease  (Document link: Robert S. Sutor)
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> Regarding the quote, I agree with Bob that we need a strong quote
> from the XML side and I even agree that it should be a
> significant player
> other than the usual suspects. Just to be safe, we should
> avoid all the
> XML.org players, including Commerce One. If Microsoft would provide a
> good quote (not just any quote), we should certainly use it.
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> As several of us have been making the point in the media and
> to analysts,
> OASIS is an open and inclusive organization. But ebXML is not
> about OASIS,
> it is about bringing together the EDI and the XML.commerce sides and
> moving forward. We need to make sure that the quotes provided aren't
> there to perpetuate any particular marketing goal of the
> individuals or
> players.
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> Bob Sutor
> Program Director, XML Technology
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> Bob Glushko <Bob.glushko@commerceone.com>@lists.oasis-open.org on
> 02/28/2000 01:59:43 AM
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> To:   "ebXML Marketing Awareness Education (E-mail)"
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> Subject:  draft of press reease
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> I have a few comments on this draft release.  I know I've
> been too busy
> lately to do anything more than lurk in this group but I hope
> I still have
> standing to return to a couple of points I made in Orlando when Rachel
> presented some of this to the steering committee.
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> The ebXML Initiative(tm) to "Create a Single Global
> Electronic Market(tm),"
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> It is simply inaccurate to say that the goal of ebXML is to
> create a single
> global electronic market.  That's not why I helped to
> initiate it and have
> three people working hard in it.  Creating the market is the
> business model
> of lots of companies like mine, Commerce One, whose web site
> and branding
> screams "Many Markets, One Source" (TM) and related slogans.
>
> It is accurate to say that ebXML is creating the FOUNDATIONS
> for a single
> global electronic market -- specifications that can be used
> by anyone to
> ensure that their marketplaces interconnect.  The difference
> may be lost on
> the masses but it won't be lost on the marketing people in
> companies like
> mine, which will have to find a way to smash ebXML as a
> competitor rather
> than embrace it as an enabler.   So at the very least I
> suggest that CREATE
> be changed to ENABLE, although that is still likely to raise
> the ire of
> some
> people.
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> Let's revisit the ebXML charter:  The goal is to provide an
> open technical
> specification to enable XML to be utilized in a consistent and uniform
> manner for the exchange of electronic business data in
> application-to-application, application-to-person and
> person-to-application
> environments.   Utilized by others, not by ebXML per se.
>
>  <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
> "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
> />"This may very well prove to be a major event of the new millennium,
> revolutionizing how business transactions are tracked,
> effecting worldwide
> impacts, removing paper from the process, and by empowering people to
> create
> whole new work models," said David RR Webber, North American
> Chair of the
> XML/edi Group.
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> Nice quote. It is also essential to balance a quote by
> Webber, who has a
> high name recognition in the EDI world, with a high name
> recognition quote
> from someone who is unambiguously viewed as an XML person.
> We don't have
> enough XML architects in ebXML i.e., people who authored (or
> led) efforts
> to
> create influential XML specifications.  I think this quote
> needs to come
> from somewhere other than the OASIS ringleaders of Sun and IBM as well
> because we are having some perception problems that OASIS is
> anti-Microsoft.
> So I'd suggest a quote from Pat O'Sullivan of Intel (who is
> well known from
> the SGML specs from the semiconductor industry and who heads
> the RosettaNet
> architecture project) or David Burdett of Commerce One, who wrote IOTP
> (payment) and who heads the IETF XML Messaging team.  O'Sullivan and
> Burdett
> are very well respected technically and their companies
> aren't perceived as
> anti-anyone.
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