RE: draft of press reease

[Leslie Lundquist <leslie@commerce.net>]

Rachel, try this. I have not called Linda for a while, but you can use my 
name if you'd like.

Leslie

Linda York
 > Vice President - Operations
 > ROSETTANET
 > Tel. +1.714.480.3806
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At 07:03 PM 2/28/00 -0600, Rachel Foerster wrote:
>In response to getting additional quotes from Pat O'Sulli8van and/or
>RosettaNet, does anyone have a line of contact in to these folks and would
>they be able to get a quote for the press release. If yes, we need it as
>quickly as possible.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rachel
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ebxml-awareness@lists.oasis-open.org
> > [mailto:owner-ebxml-awareness@lists.oasis-open.org]On Behalf Of
> > sutor@us.ibm.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 7:09 AM
> > To: Bob Glushko; ebXML-Awareness@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: Re: draft of press reease
> >
> >
> > I forgot to make one other point.
> >
> > Bob's suggestion of Pat O'Sullivan is an excellent one, and
> > we want to make
> > sure
> > that we play up both the Intel and RosettaNet aspects, perhaps even
> > RosettaNet
> > first.
> >
> > ..........................................................
> > Bob Sutor
> > Program Director, XML Technology
> > 716-243-2445 / Fax 716-243-1778 / Tieline 320-9138
> > Cellular 716-317-6899 / Pager 1-800-946-4645 PIN # 1473757
> > sutor@us.ibm.com
> >
> > ---------------------- Forwarded by Robert S Sutor/Watson/IBM
> > on 02/28/2000
> > 08:07 AM ---------------------------
> >
> >      Robert S Sutor
> >      02/28/2000 07:40 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To:   Bob Glushko <Bob.glushko@commerceone.com>,
> >       ebXML-Awareness@lists.oasis-open.org
> > cc:
> > From: Robert S Sutor/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
> > Subject:  Re: draft of press reease  (Document link: Robert S. Sutor)
> >
> > Regarding the quote, I agree with Bob that we need a strong quote
> > from the XML side and I even agree that it should be a
> > significant player
> > other than the usual suspects. Just to be safe, we should
> > avoid all the
> > XML.org players, including Commerce One. If Microsoft would provide a
> > good quote (not just any quote), we should certainly use it.
> >
> > As several of us have been making the point in the media and
> > to analysts,
> > OASIS is an open and inclusive organization. But ebXML is not
> > about OASIS,
> > it is about bringing together the EDI and the XML.commerce sides and
> > moving forward. We need to make sure that the quotes provided aren't
> > there to perpetuate any particular marketing goal of the
> > individuals or
> > players.
> >
> > ..........................................................
> > Bob Sutor
> > Program Director, XML Technology
> > 716-243-2445 / Fax 716-243-1778 / Tieline 320-9138
> > Cellular 716-317-6899 / Pager 1-800-946-4645 PIN # 1473757
> > sutor@us.ibm.com
> >
> >
> > Bob Glushko <Bob.glushko@commerceone.com>@lists.oasis-open.org on
> > 02/28/2000 01:59:43 AM
> >
> > Sent by:  owner-ebxml-awareness@lists.oasis-open.org
> >
> >
> > To:   "ebXML Marketing Awareness Education (E-mail)"
> >       <ebXML-Awareness@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > cc:
> > Subject:  draft of press reease
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a few comments on this draft release.  I know I've
> > been too busy
> > lately to do anything more than lurk in this group but I hope
> > I still have
> > standing to return to a couple of points I made in Orlando when Rachel
> > presented some of this to the steering committee.
> >
> >
> > The ebXML Initiative(tm) to "Create a Single Global
> > Electronic Market(tm),"
> >
> > It is simply inaccurate to say that the goal of ebXML is to
> > create a single
> > global electronic market.  That's not why I helped to
> > initiate it and have
> > three people working hard in it.  Creating the market is the
> > business model
> > of lots of companies like mine, Commerce One, whose web site
> > and branding
> > screams "Many Markets, One Source" (TM) and related slogans.
> >
> > It is accurate to say that ebXML is creating the FOUNDATIONS
> > for a single
> > global electronic market -- specifications that can be used
> > by anyone to
> > ensure that their marketplaces interconnect.  The difference
> > may be lost on
> > the masses but it won't be lost on the marketing people in
> > companies like
> > mine, which will have to find a way to smash ebXML as a
> > competitor rather
> > than embrace it as an enabler.   So at the very least I
> > suggest that CREATE
> > be changed to ENABLE, although that is still likely to raise
> > the ire of
> > some
> > people.
> >
> > Let's revisit the ebXML charter:  The goal is to provide an
> > open technical
> > specification to enable XML to be utilized in a consistent and uniform
> > manner for the exchange of electronic business data in
> > application-to-application, application-to-person and
> > person-to-application
> > environments.   Utilized by others, not by ebXML per se.
> >
> >  <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
> > "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
> > />"This may very well prove to be a major event of the new millennium,
> > revolutionizing how business transactions are tracked,
> > effecting worldwide
> > impacts, removing paper from the process, and by empowering people to
> > create
> > whole new work models," said David RR Webber, North American
> > Chair of the
> > XML/edi Group.
> >
> > Nice quote. It is also essential to balance a quote by
> > Webber, who has a
> > high name recognition in the EDI world, with a high name
> > recognition quote
> > from someone who is unambiguously viewed as an XML person.
> > We don't have
> > enough XML architects in ebXML i.e., people who authored (or
> > led) efforts
> > to
> > create influential XML specifications.  I think this quote
> > needs to come
> > from somewhere other than the OASIS ringleaders of Sun and IBM as well
> > because we are having some perception problems that OASIS is
> > anti-Microsoft.
> > So I'd suggest a quote from Pat O'Sullivan of Intel (who is
> > well known from
> > the SGML specs from the semiconductor industry and who heads
> > the RosettaNet
> > architecture project) or David Burdett of Commerce One, who wrote IOTP
> > (payment) and who heads the IETF XML Messaging team.  O'Sullivan and
> > Burdett
> > are very well respected technically and their companies
> > aren't perceived as
> > anti-anyone.
> >
> >
> >
> > bob
> >
> >
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