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Subject: RE: Suggestion for ebXML Knowledge Dissemination
<William Kammerer> But when we're all done with this, what do we expect out of the Business>Process model? Is this somehow going to be put into XMI or something that ebXML compliant software can read to control the processes? I.e., the process would ensure that the authorization for raw materials, fabrication and shipment occur seriatim (taking the Scheduling Use case for example). </William Kammerer> <Bob Haugen> A lot of the usage remains to be determined. The only official statements are those included in the TechSpec Scenarios, in which the BP model will be incorporated in repositories. We also expect the core components and BP model to align with each other, although that will be a two-way street. Informally, I could say: 1) The BP model is not all mandatory; that is, it is designed to be used in pieces, so that for example simple one-off purchase orders would use a little, while contract procurement might use a lot. 2) The model contains optional rules that could ensure proper sequencing of process steps. 3) I don't expect ebXML to produce software. 4) I do expect the BP model to influence software companies. Am I making any sense? </Bob Haugen> It is a logical outlook that BP-XMI in appropriate "pieces" (as Bob puts it) will indeed play a role in implementations from software companies, even if a BP-XMI formal specification does not exist in ebXML. Also, not only an alignment with Core Components is likely, but logically with TRP. An instance of the BP would define an instance of the TRP TSLA, which will configure an instance of the ebXML-aware Transport for enforcing the BP process steps. The system-level architecture is not completely clear, but this is a likely outcome that is workable. Scott Hinkelman Senior Software Engineer, SWG IBM Austin 512-823-8097 (TL 793-8097) (Cell: 512-940-0519) srh@us.ibm.com, Fax: 512-838-1074 Bob Haugen <linkage@interaccess.com>@lists.oasis-open.org on 06/22/2000 02:50:45 PM Sent by: owner-ebxml-awareness@lists.oasis-open.org To: "'William J. Kammerer'" <wkammerer@foresightcorp.com> cc: "'ebXML Awareness Team'" <ebxml-awareness@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: RE: Suggestion for ebXML Knowledge Dissemination William Kammerer wrote: >the ebXML Business Process Metamodel on Page 4 of the BP >First Draft is out of this world; I would call it spaghetti-code. I agree, it is too complex. The next revision (due next week) will not be any better. I'll raise an issue from your suggestions to find a way to simplify for the rev after that. [good ideas snipped but filed for future reference] >The Use Cases were easier to understand Good. At least we're moving in the right direction. (Those were done much later than the first big diagram.) >I'll trust BP >that the collaboration diagrams somehow map onto the metamodel; I'm not >going to double-check them. They had a few listed problems; the next rev should map much closer to 100%. >But when we're all done with this, what do we expect out of the Business >Process model? Is this somehow going to be put into XMI or something >that ebXML compliant software can read to control the processes? I.e., >the process would ensure that the authorization for raw materials, >fabrication and shipment occur seriatim (taking the Scheduling Use case >for example). A lot of the usage remains to be determined. The only official statements are those included in the TechSpec Scenarios, in which the BP model will be incorporated in repositories. We also expect the core components and BP model to align with each other, although that will be a two-way street. Informally, I could say: 1) The BP model is not all mandatory; that is, it is designed to be used in pieces, so that for example simple one-off purchase orders would use a little, while contract procurement might use a lot. 2) The model contains optional rules that could ensure proper sequencing of process steps. 3) I don't expect ebXML to produce software. 4) I do expect the BP model to influence software companies. Am I making any sense? -Bob Haugen ======================================================================= = This is ebxml-awareness, the general mailing list for the ebXML = = Marketing and Awareness project team. 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