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Subject: RE: Suggestion for ebXML Knowledge Dissemination
> I think Mr. Kammerer is just what the metamodel document > needs right now: a critical reader. His main criticism > is that the UML diagrams are unreadable, especially > the first big one: > > >Yes, I realize use of UML was "mandated. But pretty much all the UML > >diagrams give me a headache - perhaps I need to take the UML for Dummies > >class. And the ebXML Business Process Metamodel on Page 4 of the BP > >First Draft is out of this world; I would call it spaghetti-code. > i do not think that the main design goal for the bp meta model, is that everybody participating in ebxml has to understand it. the meta model must be able to capture all business semantics within a business transaction. not every word user has to understand the word file format before typing a letter. you can use your ordering application without understanding the data structures. modelers can use a uml modeling tool without being aware of the uml meta model. what these users allowed to do is constrained by the tool/application. when you want to teach somebody in UML, the probably worst thing you can do is to show and explain him/her the meta model behind UML. how many UML books have you seen presenting the UML meta model (although the content is conform to the meta model). in my opinion we need tools allowing modelers to define ebxml conform business models (which means that the models are conform to the bp meta model). but before we can attract software tool providers to build such a tool, we need a rather stable meta model. similarly, a new version of the UML meta model is standardized, before tool vendors incorporate it into their tools. good tools will also guide (by the application itself) the modeler in producing a ebxml conform model. this means that they incorporate a methodology in producing an ebxml model. so what we need is a first proposal on a methodology which shows how - by following the methodology - an ebxml compliant model is produced. this will help the "dummies" to understand the function of the meta model. than we have to verify if existing methodologies (edifecs/rosetta net, swift, oag, tmwg, ...) can deliver a ebxml compliant model. Even more important we must evaluate whether the output (ebxml model) is the same regardless of the methodology used or not. i strongly believe not. if i am right, i think we need a common methodology. nevertheless, i like bob's approach of defining packages according to a narrative flow. i think this will also help in giving a first guideline on how to produce an ebxml compliant model. christian ======================================================================= = This is ebxml-bp, the general mailing list for the ebXML = = Business Process project team. The owner of this list is = = owner-ebxml-bp@oasis-open.org = = = = To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.oasis-open.org with = = the following in the body of the message: = = unsubscribe ebxml-bp = = If you are subscribed using a different email address, put the = = address you subscribed with at the end of the line; e.g. = = unsubscribe ebxml-bp myname@company.com = =======================================================================
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