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Subject: Re: FW: 2 July BP meeting notes and 16 July BP meeting notice



I'm forwarding this message on behalf of Jim Clark.

Paul Levine


                                                                                                 
                    Jim Clark                                                                    
                    <jim.clark@e2        To:     "Paul R. Levine (E-mail)"                       
                    open.com>            <plevine@telcordia.com>                                 
                                         cc:     (bcc: Paul R. Levine/Telcordia)                 
                    07/05/01             Subject:     FW: 2 July BP meeting notes and 16 July BP 
                    11:52 AM             meeting notice                                          
                                                                                                 
                                                                                                 





All,

May I speak for myself.

What I said was the following:

1) That the only changes 'needed to be made' to the R9 release were
editorial in nature. That the R9 release reflected all of the changes
agreed to in Dallas and that this in no way reflects any 'instability' in
the current release or need to wait on a 'Dublin' release. The N090R9 is
the official version that all should reference.

2) Moving the model to Objecteering as a drawing tool has nothing to do
with
the current 'versioning with the spec'. It is an editor preference on the
tool used to draw the UML diagrams.

3)The issue around Objecteering is that I was offering a courtesy copy of
the model as XMI for use by Mr. Riemer. XMI is not an official product of
the
TMWG.

4)The UML model in and of itself is not the basis of the semantics of the
metamodel. Along with the UML diagrams are attribute definitions,
constraints, well-formedness rules and normative text. One cannot use just
the UML diagrams and fully understand the meta-model.

5) The release of the next version of N090 should be based on the criterion
set forth by the  TMWG. It is not for myself to say.

Respectfully to all,
Jim Clark
Director of Industry Solutions
E2Open
936.263.3366(direct)
936.520.7428(cell)



-----Original Message-----
From: Karsten Riemer [mailto:Karsten.Riemer@Sun.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Karsten.Riemer@Sun.COM
Cc: ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org
Subject: Re: 2 July BP meeting notes and 16 July BP meeting notice


Comment on the meeting minutes:

"Jim Clark stated that editorial revisions have been made and the metamodel
diagrams have been recast in the Objecteering tool.  Jim said a revision
needs
to be produced as a basis for the work in the Dublin TMWG meeting, and that
XMI output would be created based on that revision, as well as another
revision reflecting the output of the Dublin meeting."

I don't know if I am reading the minutes right, but the current state of
the
UMM metamodel needs to be made available now, in advance of the Dublin
meeting, so that we can all comment on whether we agree with the basis that
is
being taken into the Dublin meeting. If the model has reached a stable
'versionable' point right now, then send out the model in what ever format
you
have, don't wait for a conversion to Objecteering, don't wait for a
complete
document to be finished and spell checked. The model is the basis, and we
all
know how to read the diagram. So if it exists, send it out now,

thanks,
-karsten





>ebXML BP PT Members,
>
>The minutes of the 2 July conference call are attached in an .rtf file.
>The discussion will be continued in a conference call meeting on 16 July,
>2001, 12:00 - 1:00 p.m.  To access this call, dial 888-699-0348
>domestically and  +1 732-336-6000 internationally.  I would appreciate
your
>reply to this message if you plan to attend this calls.
>
>Regards,
>
>Paul Levine
>BP PT co-lead
>(See attached file: BP_PT_2Jul2001.rtf)



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