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Subject: FW: OASIS/ebXML bdocs TCs
Hi, does any one in this group know about this initiative taken by OASIS and how it impacts us and our work on Core processes? This is the first time I am seeing this and it appears to be identical to what we started with. thanks - Nita -----Original Message----- From: Jon Bosak [mailto:bosak@boethius.eng.sun.com] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 4:01 PM To: Bdocs-preparation-list@boethius.eng.sun.com Subject: e bosak@eng Subject: OASIS/ebXML bdocs TCs This is an update for people who have been following the formation of OASIS "Bdocs" TCs for the definition of base schemas for business messages. Note that our projected meeting date has been moved from mid-December in Washington to the second week of January in the San Francisco Bay Area, for reasons that will be explained below. BACKGROUND ebXML (http://ebxml.com), a joint initiative of OASIS and UN/CEFACT, is a bit more than halfway through its definition of an infrastructure for global electronic trade. Among the deliverables of this effort are guidelines for the development of XML schemas for business documents. However, the schemas themselves are not among the deliverables. It is my opinion and the opinion of some others on this list that work needs to start soon on the development of base schemas for the most common business documents. I have proposed that those of us interested in this work form a set of OASIS technical committees (TCs) in which to carry out the formation of schemas according to the ebXML guidelines now under development. Current plans call for the simultaneous formation of nine OASIS TCs: 1. Product Catalogs 2. Other Pre-Order (Partner Review and Product Introduction) 3. Order Management 4. Product Delivery, Inventory Management and Billing 5. Reporting, Product Returns and Credit/Debit Memos 6. Payment Reconciliation, Service and Support 7. Financial 8. Customs 9. UML-to-XML mapping A matrix showing the documents that would likely be developed in TCs 2-6 can be found at http://metalab.unc.edu/bosak/bdocs/bdoc-matrix.pdf This is just a discussion piece, but it gives an idea of the kind of work each TC would be doing. CURRENT STATUS Members of the UN/EDIFACT Working Group meeting in Taipei a few weeks ago reportedly agreed to form a joint effort with ANSI X12 that would overlap the work projected for the Bdocs OASIS TCs. Members of X12 meeting in Cincinnati last week reportedly agreed to cooperate in this joint effort. Recipients of the present message should have received a long piece I posted to EWG and X12 leaders expressing my willingness cooperate in this effort but also pointing out some organizational concerns. The following lists my main concerns at this point. 1. I don't believe that a joint initiative of X12 and EWG will have a committee process strong enough for the resolution of disagreements between the b2b vendors that I most desire to participate in XML business document standardization. 2. As separate standards organizations, X12 and EWG do appear to have committee processes that will work for this, but I'm not sure that they are set up to allow initial voting membership by OASIS members. 3. In any event, I am not at all convinced that X12 and EWG, either together or separately, can move quickly enough to establish nine parallel committees for the definition of standard trading schemas in time to avert a collision of proprietary solutions in this area. For these reasons, I have decided to go ahead with the preliminary formation of OASIS Bdocs TCs to ensure that a standardization effort for XML business schemas will begin in some credible, open forum in the near future. If X12 and EWG manage to establish a set of committees operating under a believable process and open to our participation before we're set to begin, then we can simply cancel the first Bdocs meetings and switch our efforts to the X12/EWG committees instead. If it appears that X12 and EWG will not succeed in establishing an adequate organizational structure by the time we're set to begin, I will petition the OASIS Board of Directors to pass a resolution making X12 and EWG members eligible to participate in the TCs and will invite X12 and EWG members to continue their work on XML schemas in that setting. As most of you know, there is a 60-day delay built into the OASIS TC process to allow for the formation of mail lists and the proper notification of OASIS members. I had originally intended to file the Bdocs paperwork with OASIS in time to hold our first set of meetings in Washington, D.C. immediately following the XML 2000 conference in December, but I held back for a few weeks to see how the X12/EWG initiative was shaping up. The plan now is to hold the first meetings of the TCs on two consecutive days during the second week of January 2001 (right now we're planning on Monday and Tuesday, January 8 and 9) at some facility to be donated by Sun Microsystems in the San Francisco Bay Area (right now we're looking at meeting rooms in Newark, which is across the Dumbarton Bridge from Sun's Menlo Park campus). This arrangement will give us maximum flexibility in case a credible X12/EWG initiative is implemented in time and we decide to switch our activity to that forum. POSITIONING WITH REGARD TO EBXML We will have to be very careful to make sure that people understand that the Bdocs effort is not competitive with ebXML. In particular, we will have to emphasize the following points. 1. ebXML is officially on record as stating that XML schemas for common business documents (purchase orders, etc.) are not among its deliverables. This position was reaffirmed by a formal decision of the ebXML Steering Committee at its meeting in Brussels last May. 2. The Bdocs plan has been formed with the knowledge of the ebXML Executive Committee, which I have taken care to keep informed of our progress. 3. The recent discussions in EWG and X12 show that a there is widespread support for the commencement of XML schema development in parallel with the development of ebXML guidelines. The conversation at this point is not about whether such work will take place in parallel with the current ebXML activities, but where it will take place and within what kind of procedural framework. 4. The Bdocs TCs will be chartered to implement ebXML guidelines and feed back experience gained in that implementation to ebXML. Every effort will be made to keep the implementation in sync with the development of ebXML guidelines. The Bdocs TCs are intended to implement ebXML, not to compete with it. To ensure the communication of this message to the ebXML membership, I will be asking the ebXML Executive to schedule a time during the upcoming ebXML plenary meeting in Tokyo during which I can present the Bdocs plan and explain the purpose and organization of the TCs. INITIAL MEMBERSHIP Under the OASIS TC process, the initial voting members of a TC are those people eligible to participate who notify the chair of the TC at least 15 days in advance of its first meeting of their intention to participate and who then appear at the first meeting. So we will know the actual composition of the Bdocs TCs only when we sit down together at the first set of meetings in January. For purposes of starting the TC process, however, we need to submit a list of at least three eligible participants for each TC and to name a chair for each TC. As a formality, therefore, the plan is to list everyone initially committed to this effort on the submission for each TC and to name myself as chair of each TC. The first TC meetings will be held in series, one hour per meeting, on the specified days in January. I will call each TC to order and then supervise the election of its permanent chair. Attendees can decide after the first set of meetings which TCs they will actually be participating in. The pro forma name list for the submissions to form the TCs currently stands as follows: Jon Bosak (chair) Eduardo Gutentag, Sun Microsystems Eve Maler, Sun Microsystems Lauren Wood, SoftQuad Mavis Cournane, CSW While this list is more than sufficient to fulfill the OASIS requirements for TC formation, it would be good PR to have as many names on the TC submissions as possible. I intend to finish up the paperwork if I can by next Wednesday (2000.10.18), so anyone who wishes to be recorded in the annals of history as a charter member of the Bdocs TCs should send me mail by Tuesday to let me know. Note that any employee of an OASIS member organization can be listed for purposes of starting a TC, so those of you who wish to assign a subordinate to participate in this work should feel free to do so. Jon
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