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here are the minutes from yesterday's meeting with the BP/CC Joint Delivery team. i would add that the emphasis on the multi-party situation was theirs not mine. the minutes also do not reflect the time discussing the presentation and how to clarify some of the issues - which i believe karsten stated was the major finding of the QR report. karsten added that the document had been structurally changed at the last minute to meet the official template. this may have accounted for some of the readability issues. i also sought clarification from the team as to whether this document would be a complete ebXML specification and therefore require full approval process. they believe that is the case and will seek endorsement from the steering committee to that effect. if so, then this is another case where the ebXML Requirements will be satisified by more than one spec - and we need to consider how we handle that. it was a useful meeting and the team hope to turn this document around within days if possible!! -- regards tim mcgrath TEDIS fremantle western australia 6160 phone: +618 93352228 fax: +618 93352142
- From: Karsten Riemer <Karsten.Riemer@East.Sun.COM>
- To: ebxml-core@lists.ebxml.org, ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org
- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:40:10 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Metamodel team met today: Agenda: Review report from QR on specification schema. Present: Jim Clark Tim McGrath Bill McCarthy Sig Handelman Scott Hinkelman Jamie Clark JJ Dubray Karsten Riemer We were lucky enough to have Tim dialing in from Australia to clarify QR issues raised and to discuss a strategy for resolving them. We have not heard from Executive Committee yet on whether they will release version 0.87 for public review. The QR recommendation was not to unless issues raised were addressed. The report and executive's view of it is likely to be discussed in Steering Committee meeting tomorrow. Karsten cannot attend (in-flight). We assume Paul can attend and will represent Context/Metamodel groups perspective. There was agreement between Tim and the Context/Metamodel group (those present) that the biggest issue in the report was the Multi-Party issue. Tim was OK with our intent to treat Multi-Party in essence as a Package of Two-Party collaborations for the infrastructure release, as long as the document makes this clear, and that Multi-Party can be deferred to a next release. Tim also understood the dilemma between an accellerated infrastructure release schedule and the subsequent release including core component content, with respect to examples including actual core components or not. Sig Handelman promised to ping Mary Kay and Lisa this week for lists of core components that may be fully defined for us to use now. We also agreed to update text and diagrams to show where core components will fit in when they exist. We discussed structured document vs. non-structured. We agreed to more clearly explain that structured means that the structure is defined in terms of ebXML core components. We will try to find another term so as not to infer that for instance an EDI document does not have structure. It is fully the intent that one should be able to express a collaboration in terms of EDI document exchanges. We agreed to clarify that we use the word SCHEMA in its broadest sense, not just XML schema. We agreed to make diagrams on page 3 and 4 more clear and to make sure text and diagrams are 'isomorphic'. We agreed that regardless of Executive Committee's decision we will start editing the document for possible resubmission by end of this week. If version 0.87 actually is released for public review, we will just include these edits in cycle 2 instead, they will not be wasted. We solicit reviewers of this revision, to be published probably by end of Wednesday. Please volunteer. -karsten
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