Re: Syntax Free Models - was: [Fwd: Oracle Input for Core ComponentsWG]

[KETELS Kris <kris.ketels@swift.com>]

> Martin,
>
> I have two questions / comments:
>
> >
> > > I have looked at X12 (I haven't looked at EDIFAC but I assume
> > > that they are similar).  There is an implicit hierarchy in the X12
> > > standards.  The XML can fall directly from the EDI.  I don't believe
> > > the hierarchy is difficult.
> >
> > The hierarchy of standards is actually a hierarchy of processes - we need to
> > clearly distinguish this hierarchy from the hierarchy of message components
> > (unfortunately these seem to be mixed in many cases)
>
> I don't entirely understand your comment. Where do you fit a message component which describes (i.e. further refines) a process)?
> example: suppose you have a message called "order to buy or sell'. Within that message, you specify (ie. refine) by saying it is for
> instance a 'buy'.
> In other words, sometimes messages (and as such one or more of their components) describe part of a process. This relates to
> defining how 'generic' a message will be.
> Or did I completely misunderstood your comment?
>
> >
> >
> > I don't have time to answer these at present, but for 1-3 I would refer you
> > to the draft CEN Working Agreement prepared as part of the ISIS European
> > XML/EDI Pilot Project last year.
> >
> >
>
> Can you tell me where I could find this documentation you refer to (URL?)?
>
> Thanks
> Best Regards
> Kris
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