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Subject: RE: Just what is a Core Component? Or, when is stealing wrong?

1.  There are two chairs of Core Components, so I'm not sure if
    William is commenting that I have provided the 'spectacle' or
    Lisa has.  Perhaps both of us, on occasion.  If it is moi,
    I will tell you that I do not think that either of us 
    should comment publicly on the xCBL issue.  
2.  EDIFACT is a good format, and has much to offer.  However,
    like X12, is has some problems that we do not want to move
    into the new environment.  We are not just taking composites
    and simple data elements out of either traditional EDI format.
    We start with a model of the business process and work our way
    down to the lowest logical level of data requirements.  If
    those happen to mirror something already present in EDIFACT or
    X12, so be it.  

3.  As for ignoring comments, I think that our Editor and the
    ebXML procedures have made it very clear how comments are to
    be submitted.  I view much of what I read on this list as
    a very interesting discussion, but not as submitted comments to CC.

William, are you as disgusted and angry as you appear to be?  Or are
you just trying to get people to respond?

Mary Kay


-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:wkammerer@foresightcorp.com]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 5:10 PM
To: ebXML Core
Subject: Re: Just what is a Core Component? Or, when is stealing wrong?

David Welsh is "confident CC will log & answer to your request by
Vienna," referring to my suggestion that UN/EDIFACT simply be modeled as
the set of ebXML Core Components.

I am not as confident, as David is, that this would happen, since
identical requests have never been "logged and answered."

This is not the first time the suggestion has been made:  one brilliant
wag wrote almost exactly a year ago to the day, in "Summary of XML
Datatypes as required for B2B applications," at
http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-core/200004/msg00001.html -

   But I do like the concept of semantic building blocks
   or core components.  So why re-invent them from scratch?
   Just take a look at the EDIFACT directories and
   dictionaries, and all of the core components for ebXML
   can be effortlessly extracted.

The silence then was deafening, and if a year was not enough time to
seriously consider a sincere proposal, then two weeks to Vienna
certainly doesn't leave enough time now.  Instead, we are treated to the
spectacle of the Core Components chair not quite sure whether a decision
has been made to adopt xCBL - hook, line and sinker - as the end-result
of 18 months of effort.

William J. Kammerer
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