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Subject: Re: What do people really expect from ebXML?
All, I am new to this discussion so I am not sure where to begin. However, it would appear to me that the ebXML expectation would be to allow small and large companies to integrate more easily at a lower cost. In working in EDI for over 10 years, it has been my experience that electronic communication does little to eliminate paper. What it can allow for is the ability to automate processes. If the intention becomes to eliminate paper and paper cost this effort will fail. Most companies will integrate the XML standards into their existing legacy systems. It does little good to eliminate paper if a company sends an electronic document to only have the receiving party print the document out. What I see as the needs of ebXML is that technologies can easily be acquired off the shelf or built with out making large investments in (development) software and possibly hardware. These systems must be open and easily integrated with existing legacy systems. Most EDI translators are difficult to integrate with existing legacy systems. They require building a large infrastructure around the translation process or they use manual processes. Both of which can be expensive to maintain. Not to mention large transmission costs. My overall point is that ebXML will not be (at first) the technology that saves the world. It will be a technology that can be adaptable to multiple operating environments without high overhead. The bottom line to most companies using it to exchange business information is that it is just a data format. What is important is what is built around the data format. This is where the great ideas of saving paper cost and integrating with multiple devices will come from. This is an education issue to the users of ebXML formats and is not something that can be built into the requirements. Just my two cents worth, thanks. David Lyon <email@example.com To: firstname.lastname@example.org et.au> cc: Fax to: 04/23/01 Subject: Re: What do people really expect from ebXML? 07:25 PM Mike, All, We're told, that at least 500 acres of trees get knocked down each day to make paper for receipts. Something totally needless in an electronic world. I know of one company that spends $700,000 per year on paper to print statements. There must be tens of thousands of others needlessly consuming world resources. People *expect* that ebXML will do something about providing solutions that will slow down the very real carnage that is going on in the world. It's possible that people in America may have disposed themselves of the Kioto treaties, but the rest of the world hasn't. Please give us a bit of a break, technical people like myself need "specifications" for electronic commerce so that we can produce solutions to solve these world problems. That's what we were told to expect from ebXML ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Rawlins <email@example.com> To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:45 AM Subject: Re: What do people really expect from ebXML? > This discussion seems to have gone from "What do people expect" - which is about > marketing, to "what do people want?" - which is about requirements. The > authoritative answer to the latter is the ebXML Requirements Spec. > > Regarding the list of topics which Bob Haugen sent out in a recent message: > > * deliver full UML models from business process to basic > components; > * be compatible with X12 and EDIFACT; > * deliver something simple right now that small businesses > who cannot even afford PC's (now $600) can use. > > This comes closer to a requirements list than a marketing list, but still isn't > completely correct for CCs or the rest of ebXML, either... > > I think what William is asking for is what some refer to as "the value > proposition". Perhaps this discussion might yield what he is suggesting if the > focus is put there. > > -- > Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting > www.rawlinsecconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from this elist send a message with the single word > "unsubscribe" in the body to: email@example.com >
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