RE: [ebxml-dev] RE: OASIS Members to Develop Universal Business Language

["Welsh, David" <David.Welsh@nordstrom.com>]

Paul,

Spoken like someone from the business !

You most probably want to watch or join what's happening in the (http://www.ebtwg.org/projects/collaboration.html) Business Collaboration Patterns project which will be starts with real world business cases, models them and then discovers the commonly used operating patterns for e-Business.  

The Business Collaborations Pattern effort will produce and test some real Business Processes BUT the team's real deliverable isn't the patterns specifically (that's for industry experts such as yourself to create). 

The Patterns project will really focus on showing how business (businesses like yours) can go and create business patterns.

"Instead of sending food to help the hungry, let's teach people about farming and ...." Well I'm sure you know the rest.
-Dave





> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Horan [mailto:paulh@vcisolutions.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:13 PM
> To: 'Duane Nickull'
> Cc: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: RE: [ebxml-dev] RE: OASIS Members to Develop 
> Universal Business
> L anguage
> 
> 
> 
> Probert, Sue wrote:
> 
> > Hi Duane
> >
> > I guess I speak for the whole ebXML UN/CEFACT core 
> components team in
> > stating that it is definitely not in the interests of 
> future e business
> > interoperability to talk of encouraging anyone to build 
> their own core
> > component library separately from the global effort.
> >>>
> 
> Agreed.  I think that is also expressed in the document I pointed out
> (COre Components Discovery and Analysis).  Use what exists set rather
> than developing your own, don't duplicate etc.
> 
> However,  there will be situations where people feel it necessary to
> build their own (or have already built them) and ebXML does allow and
> support that.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Duane
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> 
> Sue (et. al.),
> I don't understand how a "global effort" will be able to 
> build a set of core
> components for our industry (Television/Cable Advertising).  
> We're going to
> *have* to do this ourselves and develop our own (unless I 
> misunderstand the
> concept of a core component).  Sure, we have RFPs and 
> Purchase Orders and
> Contracts and Invoices like somebody that sells toner 
> cartridges, but our
> clients are selling "time", and that's definitely apples and oranges.
> Now, we want to be ebXML/OASIS-compliant (whatever that 
> means), and as soon
> as this all settles down and I can see an example of a working set of
> applications that support this standard, I'll have something 
> to model to.
> 
> Paul Horan
> Sr. Architect
> Video Communications Inc.
> www.vcisolutions.com
> 
> 
> 
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