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Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] Toolkits for BP Modelling


You may also want to have a look at Bind Systems' BindStudio modeling 
tool (www.bindsys.com).

-Dieter Jenz

Beach, Scott wrote:

>Thanks Hima!
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Himagiri(Hima) Mukkamala [mailto:himagiri@sybase.com]
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:16 AM
>To: Beach, Scott
>Cc: 'ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org'
>Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] Toolkits for BP Modelling
>Hi Scott,
>First the vendor plug ---
>    Sybase Power Designer provides "Business Process Modeling"
>capabilities and generates a BPSS instance document (XML) compliant with
>the accepted BPSS v1.01 specification.
>--- End vendor plug----
>Other vendor, that I know, providing a very good BPM tool is
>You can contact me if you need more details.
>"Beach, Scott" wrote:
>>Hello all-
>>I'm curious as to what tools people have found useful for capturing
>>Processes in UML and exporting them to XML so they may be added to the
>>Registry/Repository.  The BP documentation makes mention of web-based
>>for entering business processes and tools for developing UML.  While I'm
>>familiar with the major UML toolkit providers, I'd love to know what
>>products you've found excel in ebXML-specific implementations so that our
>>organization can recommend and utilize the best solution.
>>-Scott Beach
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: bhaugen [mailto:linkage@interaccess.com]
>>Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:04 PM
>>To: Jean-Jacques Dubray; 'Nandini Ektare'
>>Cc: 'ebxml org'; 'Hayes, Brian'; 'Malu, Pallavi G'; 'LONJON Antoine'
>>Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] <BinaryCollaboration> in eBPSS
>>From: Jean-Jacques Dubray
>>>You are raising an important issue, which I think can only be resolved
>>>if we either make the notification failure part of the business
>>>transaction protocol rather than a separate business transaction as it
>>>is today, or by making an explicit notification of success (either
>>>a separate business transaction, or as a timeout). I personally favor
>>>the former solution.
>>I think success can be discerned reliably from
>>the transaction protocol without a separate notification.
>>Failure could be more problematic, especially
>>where the last acknowledgment does not arrive
>>due to technical difficulties.
>>In RosettaNet, the precursor to the BPSS
>>transaction protocol, Notification of Failure
>>is a separate transaction that is required
>>in many PIPs (Partner Interface Processes).
>>My understanding is that RNet went over all
>>the design alternatives we may consider here,
>>and selected a separate-but-required transaction
>>because it may need to go via completely
>>different delivery mechanisms.
>>In other words, if the end state of the transaction
>>is not aligned properly because of a technical
>>failure on the last acknowledgment, another
>>notification using the same mechanism
>>will most likely fail, too.
>>-Bob Haugen

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