Re: [ebxml-dev] BizTalk & ebXML

[Duane Nickull <duane@xmlglobal.com>]

Mark:

Although the iWay ebXML message handler service is agnostic to the
underlying transport protocol, it is genraly thought preferable to rely
on HTTP to avoid firewall issues.  SMTP would probably be a close second
choice.   BTW,  it was brought to my attention today by someone else
that the news release of the relationship between XML Global and iWay
regarding ebXML Messaging and Registry was available online:

http://www.stock-quotes.com/integrator/newsrelease.asp?news=25057&ticker=XMLG&lang=EN

The actual ebXML adapter that is marketed by Microsoft on the BizTalk
site is a full fledged message handler layer that can be deployed as a
Listener Class or spoken to via an API to assemble and send out ebXML v
2.0 compliant messages.  Another shock (for a Microsoft marketed
product), may be that it is written in Java so we have a complete Java
API doc set that ships with the product for people who want to embed the
ebXML message handler functionality within their own
products/solutions.  iWay has embedded this functionality in the latest
version of their enterprise integration software and is selling it as we
speak.  It is possible that one of the iWay guys cc'd above could give
numbers for any BizTalk implementations.

The ebXML adapter is substantially different than the project done for
the Canadian Government.  That project built a smaller subset of the
ebML MHS to specifically make calls to an ebXML v 2.0 registry that they
have implemented on a Sun Platform:

http://www.stock-quotes.com/integrator/newsrelease.asp?news=27187&ticker=XMLG&lang=EN

FYI - XMLG is currently involved with the DGI testing (along with 8-9
other vendors) slated to finish later this fall.

Duane

 

Mark Conde wrote:
> 
> Thanks Duane..
> 
> The way that Microsoft was marketing your adapter appeared to be a full
> fledged ebxml message transmission layer. If your product is an ebxml
> message handler, then does it process ebxml packets on some type of
> transport layer or can it provide and entire listener and sender capability
> on top of biztalk?
> 
> mark..
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:duane@xmlglobal.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:00 PM
> To: mconde@mindspring.com
> Cc: Damodaran, Suresh; Jean-Jacques Dubray; 'Mark Mark';
> ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org; Silverstein, Moshe;
> Dave_Watson@iwaysoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] BizTalk & ebXML
> 
> Mark:
> 
> The iWay adapter is a true ebXML Message Handler Service.  It is much
> more than a simple XML parser.
> 
> If you have a specific project that can make use of a Biztalk to ebXML
> message adapter,  please contact one of the two iWay contacts offline.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Duane Nickull
> 
> mconde@mindspring.com wrote:
> >
> > Suresh..
> >
> > I would agree. Those products listed under the microsoft adapters don't
> seem
> > to be ebxml message transport at all. They are only XML parsers?
> >
> > Does anyone know of true ebxml message transport adapters for Biztalk?
> >
> > mark
> >
> > On Mon, 02 Sep 2002 21:57:38 -0500 "Damodaran, Suresh"
> > <Suresh_Damodaran@stercomm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Has anybody used the ebXML adapters from, say, iWay
> > (http://www.iwaysoftware.com/products/adapters/ebXML.html) for BizTalk?
> > The adapter seems to be a Registry, and it is not obvious whether another
> > ebMS 2.0 can talk to it for communicating with an application other than
> > Registry.
> > I couldn't get through to the other provider's ebXML adapter page.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Suresh
> > Sterling Commerce
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Duane Nickull [mailto:duane@xmlglobal.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:51 AM
> > To: Jean-Jacques Dubray
> > Cc: 'Mark Mark'; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> > Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] BizTalk & ebXML
> >
> > BTW - Microsoft offers an ebXML adapter right off their BizTalk Server
> > Page:
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/biztalk/evaluation/adapters/adapterslist.asp
> >
> > (Hit "All adapters" then scroll down the list).
> >
> > The gap has been bridged between the two (environments?) and commercial
> > products are available right now to anyone running BizTalk.  If you own
> > a BizTalk Server,  you can have an ebXML Registry Client (A COM object
> > built in C++) and/or a ebXML V 2.0 Message Handler Service.
> >
> > Duane Nickull
> >
> > > Here is the biztalk spec url:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/biztalk/techinfo/BizTalkFramework20.doc
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Jean-Jacques
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Mark Mark [mailto:mark_ai@yahoo.com]
> > > >>Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:02 AM
> > > >>To: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> > > >>Subject: [ebxml-dev] BizTalk & ebXML
> > > >>
> > > >>Where can I find material which compares BizTalk &
> > > >>ebXML from a tchnical point of view ?
> > > >>
> > > >>Any help would be much appreciated
> > > >>
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