Re: [ebsoa] Re: [regrep] 20 reasons why web services are like Paris Hilt

["Matthew MacKenzie" <mattm@adobe.com>]

*sigh*

I was playing with the "Paris Hilton" thing :-)

Web Services are fine, except for the politics.

-Matt

On Mar 26, 2004, at 10:15 AM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:

> Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
> > I just wish the web services picture was a bit clearer and in focus. 
> Matt,
>
> What aspects of the "Web Services picture" might you be referring to?
> The current and emerging standards/specifications? The overlaps
> between/within consortiums? Interoperability or lack thereof between
> various specifications/standards? Interoperability or lack thereof
> between various Web Services-based application frameworks?
>
> The list goes on...
>
> Joe
>
> > I'm sure there is something interesting to see there, its just too > dark and out of focus.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > On Mar 25, 2004, at 8:16 PM, David RR Webber wrote:
> >
> >      Joe,
> >
> >      The most irreverent answer!
> >
> >      #20 - everyone is talking about web services
> >      #19 - there are more people thinking about web services than doing them
> >      #18 - web service articles are everywhere in magazines - but noone is
> >      quite certain about the accuracy of the details in them
> >      #17 - proven benefits of web services are hard to show but if people see
> >      you doing web services they will try and mingle in with your group
> >      #16 - everyones trying to figure out how they can cash-in on web services
> >      #15 - web services sound and look young, tight and amazing in the glossy
> >      magazines
> >      #14 - web services can change their look rapidly and without warning
> >      #13 - everyone has their own ideas about how they'd like to do web services
> >      #12 - its hard to describe to your neighbours what you are doing with web
> >      services
> >      #11 - people who are not really doing web services will say they are anyway
> >      #10 - a lot of rich people and PR machines are behind web services
> >      #9 - web services looks like its just life on a beach but in reality its
> >      much more
> >      confusing and complex than that
> >      #8 - the long term consequences of doing web services could result in some
> >      unforeseen side effects from things that might be revelled later that
> >      took
> >      place earlier that you did not know about
> >      #7 - getting a legal agreement before doing web services is really tough,
> >      most people are doing it anyway while they have the chance and
> >      hoping it will all be alright later
> >      #6 - web services are all over the internet and in junk mail
> >      #5 - web services are young, make a lot of noise, and some of the things
> >      they do are crude and shocking
> >      #4 - doing things with web services probably means alot of late nights
> >      and having to fix up messy loose ends before someone notices
> >      #3 - there is no standard way of doing web services but people will take
> >      anything that web services are doing and then sell them for as much
> >      as they can get
> >      #2 - web services are trying to become things that they are not, but would
> >      like to be somehow
> >      #1 - web services can do absolutely anything you want them to do - and in
> >      ways you never even thought possible.
> >
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> > ___________________________
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> > Senior Architect
> > IDBU Server Solutions
> > Adobe Systems Canada Inc.
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