Quick afterthought: I believe the issue of using ebMS instead of an EDI VAN enters in here (that is, the advantages of ebMS over a VAN). Joe Chiusano Joseph wrote: > > FYI - question about ebXML and EDI on the XML-DEV listserv. Forwarding > here for opportunities for correction, expression of differing opinion, > etc. > > Original question is at: > > http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200407/msg00110.html > > Kind Regards, > Joe Chiusano > Booz | Allen | Hamilton > Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Edi complexity, does ebxml really reduce it? > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:02:28 -0400 > From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com> > Organization: Booz Allen Hamilton > To: Michael Kay <michael.h.kay@ntlworld.com> > CC: bry@itnisk.com, xml-dev@lists.xml.org > References: <20040713133910.HWGG8666.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@Turtle> > > You're right Mike. I'll reproduce the questions below and answer them > here: > > > Whenever one examines one of the ebxml specs or reads an article on the subject > > there is likely to be a reference to how edi had problems with being accepted > > because it was too complex, but luckily ebxml, being based on xml, solves all > > this > > Not completely, but it can make usage of EDI easier (please read on). > > > A very suspect class of assertion it seems like to me. I'm wondering if > > anyone who has familiarity with these technologies can clarify exactly how and > > in what ways ebxml reduces the complexity of edi. > > In general, ebXML is "payload agnostic" - so the payload can be XML, > EDI, binary files, etc. So the degree to which it reduces the complexity > of EDI depends on how much of an improvement the "ebXML approach" and > tools might be over those for EDI (a subjective judgment, IMO). There is > also a great lack (IMO) of ebXML tools/products available, and still a > good amount of EDI tools/products - so that factors in. There is also > the factor of product price, which would require a detailed comparison > that I have not done (and I am not aware of anythat exists). > > > Basically my understanding is that ebxml just wrapped the edi model in xml, so I > > have a hard time seeing how it could be simpler. > > > > Also am wondering about CPAs in Ebxml, it strikes me that this process could > > actually be somewhat onerous, does anyone know of any case studies etc. on > > problems with making CPAs between two companies? > > CPAs in general represent the system features that are agreed upon - > electronically or non - by two trading partners. CPAs include various > paramters/settings (pick favorite word) that relate to security, > messaging, business process specification, etc. Whether the process is > onerous or not comes down (mostly) to the tools that are available, and > how easily they automate the process. > > Hope that helps. > > Kind Regards, > Joe Chiusano > Booz | Allen | Hamilton > Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World > > Michael Kay wrote: > > > > > These excellent questions are probably best asked on the > > > ebXML-dev list. > > > > Only if you want an answer from the kind of person who lives on that list. > > If you want answers from the people who have given up on ebxml because they > > found it too complex, asking here might be better. > > > > Michael Kay > > -- > Kind Regards, > Joseph Chiusano > Associate > Booz | Allen | Hamilton > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php> > > The ebxml-dev list is sponsored by OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The > list archives are at http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-dev/ > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription manager: > <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/> -- Kind Regards, Joseph Chiusano Associate Booz | Allen | Hamilton The ebxml-dev list is sponsored by OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-dev/ To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/>
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