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Re: Alphabet soup, was RE: hey whilst we are all asking for things

Ron, I believe you're right about that, given NIST's role as you mention
below. Thanks for educating me.

Joe

"Schuldt, Ron L" wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> Since the conceptual model is being developed by industry volunteers and
> NIST is simply a facilitator, I don't believe it falls into the same
> category as public information developed by a government organization
> such as NIST - but I also might be wrong.
> 
> The eBSC conceptual model team had a telecon yesterday (Mark Palmer of
> NIST also attended) to discuss the status of the model. We all agreed
> that the model needed better definitions for the various categories
> (rows) of standards. We felt that the current definitions are too
> ambiguous and therefore might cause various industries to improperly
> indicate within their assigned column which standards they are using,
> adopting or evaluating for possible adoption.
> 
> The intent is that once the conceptual model is complete, various
> industries would be able to fill-in the cells online associated with
> their assigned column. By simply having this information publicly
> available would provide a tremendous leverage point for the convergence
> of ebusiness standards.
> 
> Ron Schuldt
> Senior Staff Systems Architect
> Lockheed Martin Enterprise Information Systems
> 11757 W. Ken Caryl Ave.
> #F521 Mail Point DC5694
> Littleton, CO 80127
> 303-977-1414
> ron.l.schuldt@lmco.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:18 AM
> To: Schuldt, Ron L
> Cc: Kremena Gotcheva; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org; dill@gefeg.com
> Subject: Re: Alphabet soup, was RE: hey whilst we are all asking for
> things
> 
> Ron,
> 
> If the conceptual model is being developed by a group that is sponsored
> by a federal agency (such as NIST), I believe (but could be wrong) that
> it has to be considered public information.
> 
> Joe
> 
> "Schuldt, Ron L" wrote:
> >
> > Kremena,
> >
> > I am not aware of a "globally recognized" list that puts the various
> standards acronyms into an architectural perspective (i.e., that
> describes how they are inter-related and their overlaps). However, I am
> aware of at least one effort that is attempting to build a framework
> (conceptual model) of various ebusiness standards. That conceptual model
> is being developed by an team within the eBusiness Standards Convergence
> (eBSC) Forum - see
> http://www.mel.nist.gov/div826/msid/sima/ebsc/index.htm
> >
> > I am a member of the team that is building the conceptual model. One
> of the stated purposes of the conceptual  model is "To provide an
> approach for standards developers to effectively communicate
> eBusiness-standards-related concepts among one another promoting more
> effective standards development, cross-industry standards collaboration,
> and standards adoption and deployment" Since the conceptual model is
> only in draft form and not ready yet for public review, I am not at
> liberty to share it at this time.
> >
> > Ron Schuldt
> > Senior Staff Systems Architect
> > Lockheed Martin Enterprise Information Systems
> > 11757 W. Ken Caryl Ave.
> > #F521 Mail Point DC5694
> > Littleton, CO 80127
> > 303-977-1414
> > ron.l.schuldt@lmco.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kremena Gotcheva [mailto:infom@bcci.bg]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:27 AM
> > To: Schuldt, Ron L
> > Cc: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org; dill@gefeg.com
> > Subject: Alphabet soup, was RE: hey whilst we are all asking for
> things
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > Thanks for the interesting links. One never stops learning ;-)
> >
> > While on the topic of implementation/adoption: you and many others on
> the
> > list will be familiar with the fact that part of every technology
> > adoption, be it in a private or public organization, is getting
> > non-technical management's approval. To do so, one must report.
> >
> > Can you give me some best practices on how to report the alphabet soup
> -
> > the difference/interrelations between UDEF, CCTS, ebXML, WSDL, UDDI,
> and,
> > and, and... The IT world of today is full of thriving acronyms that
> are
> > difficult to follow and virtually impossible to communicate in a
> nutshell.
> >
> > Is there a globally recognized, neutral, more or less comprehensive
> list
> > of acronyms with a schema what technology fits where and what is it
> good
> > for - a kind of who's who in the acronym mess? If not, I think
> creating
> > one would greatly facilitate interoperability efforts since IT people
> will
> > make their needs clear to decisionmakers. I would be happy to work on
> > setting such page up and maintaining it - maybe even as part of the
> work
> > on the GFP topic on Ecommerce and business [1].
> >
> > Actually, in case such who's who doesn't exist, please regard this
> mail as
> > a call to start an open process on the topic. If enough volunteers
> write
> > me on or off list, I'll set up some kind of discussion forum. Please
> > indicate your background, and views on the presentation of the theme.
> > Also, what would be the critical mass of participants for the success
> of
> > such undertaking, in your opinion?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Kremena
> >
> > [1] http://www.gfptt.org/topics/eCommerce
> >
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> --
> Kind Regards,
> Joseph Chiusano
> Associate
> Booz | Allen | Hamilton

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Joseph Chiusano
Associate
Booz | Allen | Hamilton

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