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RE: Where have all the developers gone?

i'm still here too.

Cheers,
A Developer

-----Original Message-----
From: Stevens, Andrew [mailto:andrew.stevens@gsjbw.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 July 2004 11:26 a.m.
To: 'david.lyon@computergrid.net'; Zachary Alexander
Cc: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
Subject: RE: Where have all the developers gone?



I'm still here.

Cheers,
A Developer.

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	david.lyon@computergrid.net
[SMTP:david.lyon@computergrid.net]
	Sent:	Wednesday, 21 July 2004 06:29
	To:	Zachary Alexander
	Cc:	ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
	Subject:	Re: Where have all the developers gone?


	Zachary,

	There are probably just definitely less software developers in the
business
	world today. Ones that were drawn into it by the lure of big money
from the dot
	com influx dissappeared after the dot com money dried up.

	One thing I noticed then was that anybody could be a VB contractor
with just an
	IT degree and 6 months experience. Now most of those people seem
to
have gone
	back to whence they came. There are definitely less developers
about
these
	days.

	As for relevence, I've never been asked by a customer for anything
about ebxml.
	They deal with some big companies, many based in Germany, Japan
and
the US etc.

	Sadly, imho, ebxml by itself doesn't offer anything that a
business
can really
	sink it's teeth into, especially at a medium or small sized
business
level. It
	advertises itself as being a carrot, it looks like a carrot, but
it's actually
	a picture card of a carrot rather than something that you can
really
sink your
	teeth into and get a full stomach from.

	I'd be interested in hearing about activity on ebxml from Korea,
where I hear
	only good things. If there is somebody that can describe how ebxml
is going in
	Korea then I'd certainly be interested in hearing.

	David

	Quoting Zachary Alexander <zack2003@ebtdesign.com>:

	> All,
	>
	> I have been catching up on my reading since returning from the
beach and
	> here are couple questions:
	>
	>
	>
	> Has the number of number of developers using this list dropped?
	>
	> If the number of users has dropped does this mean that everybody
is at
	> the beach or does this mean that ebXML has become less relevant
to
	> business users?
	>
	> Can the amount of traffic on this list be used to monitor the
level of
	> support for the ebXML initiative?
	>
	> If the amount of traffic can used a gage for ebXML acceptance
within the
	> developer community, are there grounds for concern?
	>
	>
	>
	> Zachary Alexander
	>
	> The IT Investment Architect
	>
	> ebTDesign LLC, (703) 283-4325
	>
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	>
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	>
	>
	>
	>




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