I'm still here too despite unsubscribing 3 x ...what to do? :-( A "J. Dean E. P. Hemopo" To: "Stevens, Andrew" <andrew.stevens@gsjbw.com> <jdeanh@ihug.co.n cc: "ebXML Dev-List" <ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org>, z> "ebXML Dev Forum" <ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org> Subject: RE: Where have all the developers gone? 21/07/2004 10:42 AM i'm still here too. Cheers, A Developer -----Original Message----- From: Stevens, Andrew [mailto:andrew.stevens@gsjbw.com] Sent: Wednesday, 21 July 2004 11:26 a.m. To: 'david.lyon@computergrid.net'; Zachary Alexander Cc: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org Subject: RE: Where have all the developers gone? I'm still here. Cheers, A Developer. -----Original Message----- From: david.lyon@computergrid.net [SMTP:david.lyon@computergrid.net] Sent: Wednesday, 21 July 2004 06:29 To: Zachary Alexander Cc: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org Subject: Re: Where have all the developers gone? Zachary, There are probably just definitely less software developers in the business world today. Ones that were drawn into it by the lure of big money from the dot com influx dissappeared after the dot com money dried up. One thing I noticed then was that anybody could be a VB contractor with just an IT degree and 6 months experience. Now most of those people seem to have gone back to whence they came. There are definitely less developers about these days. As for relevence, I've never been asked by a customer for anything about ebxml. They deal with some big companies, many based in Germany, Japan and the US etc. Sadly, imho, ebxml by itself doesn't offer anything that a business can really sink it's teeth into, especially at a medium or small sized business level. It advertises itself as being a carrot, it looks like a carrot, but it's actually a picture card of a carrot rather than something that you can really sink your teeth into and get a full stomach from. I'd be interested in hearing about activity on ebxml from Korea, where I hear only good things. If there is somebody that can describe how ebxml is going in Korea then I'd certainly be interested in hearing. David Quoting Zachary Alexander <zack2003@ebtdesign.com>: > All, > > I have been catching up on my reading since returning from the beach and > here are couple questions: > > > > Has the number of number of developers using this list dropped? > > If the number of users has dropped does this mean that everybody is at > the beach or does this mean that ebXML has become less relevant to > business users? > > Can the amount of traffic on this list be used to monitor the level of > support for the ebXML initiative? > > If the amount of traffic can used a gage for ebXML acceptance within the > developer community, are there grounds for concern? > > > > Zachary Alexander > > The IT Investment Architect > > ebTDesign LLC, (703) 283-4325 > > http://www.ebTDesign.com <http://www.ebtdesign.com/> | > <http://www.semanticviewpoint.com/> http://www.semanticviewpoint.com | > <http://www.p2peconomy.com/> http://www.p2peconomy.com > > <http://www.semanticviewpoint.com> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- The ebxml-dev list is sponsored by OASIS < http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-dev/ To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/> Goldman Sachs JBWere Disclosure of Interest LLC: Goldman Sachs JBWere and/or its affiliates have received during the past 12 months compensation for financial and advisory services from the company, its parent, or its wholly owned or majority owned subsidiary. 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