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RE: Where have all the developers gone?


I'm still here too despite unsubscribing 3 x ...what to do?
 :-(  A



 

                      "J. Dean E. P.

                      Hemopo"                  To:       "Stevens, Andrew"
<andrew.stevens@gsjbw.com>      
                      <jdeanh@ihug.co.n        cc:       "ebXML Dev-List"
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                                               Subject:  RE: Where have
all the developers gone?           
                      21/07/2004 10:42

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i'm still here too.

Cheers,
A Developer

-----Original Message-----
From: Stevens, Andrew [mailto:andrew.stevens@gsjbw.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 July 2004 11:26 a.m.
To: 'david.lyon@computergrid.net'; Zachary Alexander
Cc: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
Subject: RE: Where have all the developers gone?



I'm still here.

Cheers,
A Developer.

             -----Original Message-----
             From:             david.lyon@computergrid.net
[SMTP:david.lyon@computergrid.net]
             Sent:             Wednesday, 21 July 2004 06:29
             To:         Zachary Alexander
             Cc:         ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
             Subject:          Re: Where have all the developers gone?


             Zachary,

             There are probably just definitely less software developers
in
the
business
             world today. Ones that were drawn into it by the lure of big
money
from the dot
             com influx dissappeared after the dot com money dried up.

             One thing I noticed then was that anybody could be a VB
contractor
with just an
             IT degree and 6 months experience. Now most of those people
seem to
have gone
             back to whence they came. There are definitely less
developers
about
these
             days.

             As for relevence, I've never been asked by a customer for
anything
about ebxml.
             They deal with some big companies, many based in Germany,
Japan and
the US etc.

             Sadly, imho, ebxml by itself doesn't offer anything that a
business
can really
             sink it's teeth into, especially at a medium or small sized
business
level. It
             advertises itself as being a carrot, it looks like a carrot,
but
it's actually
             a picture card of a carrot rather than something that you can
really
sink your
             teeth into and get a full stomach from.

             I'd be interested in hearing about activity on ebxml from
Korea,
where I hear
             only good things. If there is somebody that can describe how
ebxml
is going in
             Korea then I'd certainly be interested in hearing.

             David

             Quoting Zachary Alexander <zack2003@ebtdesign.com>:

             > All,
             >
             > I have been catching up on my reading since returning from
the
beach and
             > here are couple questions:
             >
             >
             >
             > Has the number of number of developers using this list
dropped?
             >
             > If the number of users has dropped does this mean that
everybody
is at
             > the beach or does this mean that ebXML has become less
relevant to
             > business users?
             >
             > Can the amount of traffic on this list be used to monitor
the
level of
             > support for the ebXML initiative?
             >
             > If the amount of traffic can used a gage for ebXML
acceptance
within the
             > developer community, are there grounds for concern?
             >
             >
             >
             > Zachary Alexander
             >
             > The IT Investment Architect
             >
             > ebTDesign LLC, (703) 283-4325
             >
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             >
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             >
             >
             >




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