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Subject: RE: [ubl-dev] RE: [ebxml-dev] Q: minimum requirement for ebxml?


go to my website www.archmage.org.nz (its an academics site so it is not
fancy) look under the Phoenix ebXML Registry URL and you will find the tools
i have selected for constructing ebXML services.  i will point you
specifically to Systinet 5.0 C++ Server tool that provides http: server
functionality and SOAP with Attachments functionality.  now as far as i can
see, the core functionality required is HTTP/SMTP/FTP.  i will ratify that
once i have read the spec responsible (i think the answer lies in the
Registry Service spec.

i mention this because providing multiple transport protocols is not
difficult to provide if you go digging for tools to help you along the way.
as a matter of fact, i have just downloaded systinets product as i had the
beta, it is now in full release form.  it is free, but deployed you must pay
royalties (i believe).

have fun digging,

dean hemopo
auckland, new zealand

-----Original Message-----
From: david.lyon@computergrid.net [mailto:david.lyon@computergrid.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 August 2004 2:09 p.m.
To: Anthony Ellis
Cc: ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
Subject: [ubl-dev] RE: [ebxml-dev] Q: minimum requirement for ebxml?

I've been doing that. One of the packages that I'm looking at is ebMail from
Hong Kong. It looks very useable and advanced.

Maybe I need a plugin, but it seems to use smtp to transfer data. That would
fine as far as I can see for most SMEs.

What is your opinion on using this package for ebxml?

Quoting Anthony Ellis <anthony.ellis@redwahoo.com>:

> What do you mean by ebxmlish?
> For the app to be considered an ebxml compliant messaging service it would
> need to provide all of the 'core' functionality in the ebXML Messaging
> Service Spec.
> Easiest way to test this is to obtain one of the 'available' messaging
> service implementations on the internet and see if your app can
> with them.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: david.lyon@computergrid.net [mailto:david.lyon@computergrid.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:27 AM
> To: ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: [ebxml-dev] Q: minimum requirement for ebxml?
> Q: Say we have an application, and it produces UBL messages and sends them
> via SMTP. Is that ebxmlish enough to be called ebxml. My reading of the
> specs seem to suggest that it might be.
> If not, what other things need to be added?
> One thing to keep in mind is that the customers are not multi-billion
> multinationals, but SMEs. They don't have an IT department, don't know
> ebxml even is probably aren't that interested.
> I'm interested in hearing some different opinions on this. None of the
> specifications that are written really have all that much about doing
> within a small or medium sized enterprise. They give the impression of
> are primarily focussed on larger organisations.
> One possible answer of course is that it is impossible for an sme to use
> ebxml because their business processes don't meet the requirements of
> In the first instance, I'm just interested to know if an SMTP app with UBL
> can pass as ebxml.
> Regards
> David
> -------------------------------------------------------


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