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Subject: RE: [ubl-dev] RE: [ebxml-dev] Q: minimum requirement for ebxml?


the site is up and running, did you at least see the archmage title?  well
scroll down the page and there are links to each of the ebXML projects i am
working on.  perhaps the URL i gave you was wrong, here it is again,
www.archmage.org.nz .

i am doing this for my masters, so cannot team up with anyone, thank you for
the offer.  i am willing though to help out as i progress.  i am doing the
final read of the BPSS and CPP/CPA specs and formulating the BSI from that.
man there is a lot of work.

another reason i cannot join up is that i have an IP relationship with a
company here in new zealand.  the IP is all mine, but we are working “under
the radar” towards a comprehensive presence in the ebXML market.
specifically, we are targeting SME’s, for a shrink-wrapped “off-the-shelf”
product. i cannot say more than that.

you are quite correct, there is an opportunity in this region, i assume you
are in australia, me, i am in auckland new zealand.

anyhow, what i was pointing to in relation to your original question is that
the tools are available to provide “multi-billion dollar” functionality to
someone who just has a low-end broadband connection, but of course SMTP for
dial up.

“seek and you shall find”

be cool,

dean hemopo
auckland, new zealand

-----Original Message-----
From: david.lyon@computergrid.net [mailto:david.lyon@computergrid.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 August 2004 3:01 p.m.
To: J. Dean E. P. Hemopo
Subject: RE: [ubl-dev] RE: [ebxml-dev] Q: minimum requirement for ebxml?

Hi Dean,

I went to your website but couldn't see anything :-(

In any case, I thought that I'd let you know (privately) that there are a
of us here in this region that would like to take on some leadership with
ebxml, especially for the region.

If you're interested in getting involved please don't hesitate to correspond
further. There are quite big markets around asia and even in australia for
software, especially in some of the verticals that we have found such as
computers and manufacturing.


Sydney Australia

Quoting "J. Dean E. P. Hemopo" <jdeanh@ihug.co.nz>:

> david,
> go to my website www.archmage.org.nz (its an academics site so it is not
> fancy) look under the Phoenix ebXML Registry URL and you will find the
> i have selected for constructing ebXML services.  i will point you
> specifically to Systinet 5.0 C++ Server tool that provides http: server
> functionality and SOAP with Attachments functionality.  now as far as i
> see, the core functionality required is HTTP/SMTP/FTP.  i will ratify that
> once i have read the spec responsible (i think the answer lies in the
> Registry Service spec.
> i mention this because providing multiple transport protocols is not
> difficult to provide if you go digging for tools to help you along the
> as a matter of fact, i have just downloaded systinets product as i had the
> beta, it is now in full release form.  it is free, but deployed you must
> royalties (i believe).
> have fun digging,
> dean hemopo
> auckland, new zealand
> -----Original Message-----
> From: david.lyon@computergrid.net [mailto:david.lyon@computergrid.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 August 2004 2:09 p.m.
> To: Anthony Ellis
> Cc: ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: [ubl-dev] RE: [ebxml-dev] Q: minimum requirement for ebxml?
> I've been doing that. One of the packages that I'm looking at is ebMail
> Hong Kong. It looks very useable and advanced.
> Maybe I need a plugin, but it seems to use smtp to transfer data. That
> be
> fine as far as I can see for most SMEs.
> What is your opinion on using this package for ebxml?
> Quoting Anthony Ellis <anthony.ellis@redwahoo.com>:
> > What do you mean by ebxmlish?
> > For the app to be considered an ebxml compliant messaging service it
> > need to provide all of the 'core' functionality in the ebXML Messaging
> > Service Spec.
> > Easiest way to test this is to obtain one of the 'available' messaging
> > service implementations on the internet and see if your app can
> communicate
> > with them.
> >
> > ANTS
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: david.lyon@computergrid.net [mailto:david.lyon@computergrid.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:27 AM
> > To: ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> > Subject: [ebxml-dev] Q: minimum requirement for ebxml?
> >
> >
> > Q: Say we have an application, and it produces UBL messages and sends
> > via SMTP. Is that ebxmlish enough to be called ebxml. My reading of the
> > specs seem to suggest that it might be.
> >
> > If not, what other things need to be added?
> >
> > One thing to keep in mind is that the customers are not multi-billion
> dollar
> > multinationals, but SMEs. They don't have an IT department, don't know
> what
> > ebxml even is probably aren't that interested.
> >
> > I'm interested in hearing some different opinions on this. None of the
> > specifications that are written really have all that much about doing
> ebxml
> > within a small or medium sized enterprise. They give the impression of
> being
> > are primarily focussed on larger organisations.
> >
> > One possible answer of course is that it is impossible for an sme to use
> > ebxml because their business processes don't meet the requirements of
> ebxml.
> >
> > In the first instance, I'm just interested to know if an SMTP app with
> > can pass as ebxml.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------


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