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Subject: ebXML & Trade Documentation
Hi Daune - where it is relevant to ebXML is in Trade Documentation The information supplied is from an E-commerce project for the Australian Association for Port and Marine Authorities [AAPMA] and NSW Maritime Services Board in 1988. This was at the time I was on the Australian EDI Standards Committee and the Australian Banking Association in conjunction with Arthur Andersen wrote to Standards Australia proposing ANSI-X12 as an Interim Standard Australia had just set up a National Community Network which confirmed in writing to Standards Australia that is was using ISO EDIFACT. However the Chairman of the EDI Standards Committee IS/11 wrote to me to support the adoption of ANSI-X12 The various documents to support these statements can be viewed on http://www.halisa.net/A/FTA/611ACEC1.htm You will appreciate the significance once you have viewed the Workflow and documents involved with Exports. This workflow is from the United Nations Port Information Management System [PORTMIS] manual http://www.halisa.net/U/11ACIF1.jpg There are 11 Different trading entities involved with documentation flows for exporters 1 Chamber of Commerce 2 Shipper Possibly US hence US Standard 3 Haulier 4 Forwarding Agent 5 Insurance Company Possibly US hence US Standard 6 Customs 7 Port Authority 8 Ship Possibly US hence US Standard 9 Shipping Company 10 Stevedore 11 Wharfinger There were 16 documents involved with the export process that are sent to the different organisations in the export cycle: 1 Certificate of Origin 2 Forwarding Agent Instructions 3 Bill of Lading 4 Booking Enquiry 5 Sailing Schedule 6 Provisional Booking 7 Wharfinger's Receipt 8 Manifest 9 Loading Plan 10 Calling Forward Notice 11 Cart Notice 12 Stowage Plan 13 Port Dues Bill 14 Port Dues Receipt 15 Customs Entry Documents 16 Customs Clearance Documents If all of this electronic documentation has to be sent each time via US Value Added Network Services [VANS] it will add considerable cost for Australian exporters particularly if there are "hidden" costs for conversion from Imperial to Metric and back again and from the US E-commerce Standard and the Australian E-commerce Standard. AUSTRALIAN PORTS IN DISARRAY WITH E-COMMERCE In Nov 2003 the Australian Treasury announced a Public Consultation for "The Australian E-commerce Best Practice Model (the BPM)" There were 18 Submissions in total. 5 of those Submissions were by OIC members http://www.halisa.net/M/S/61/ADT/ According to the Submission by Ben ANSON of Sydney Ports to the Australian Treasury Public Consultation on E-commerce in Nov 2003, Australian Ports have major problems with E-commerce http://www.halisa.net/M/S/61/ADT/ADTTKQSC.htm Australian Customs and Tradegate do not appear to be able to sort out the problems after 15 years even though there were 2 Australians at the head of the Customs Co-operation Council [CCC] in Brussels from 1987-1992 that implementing the Customs Harmonised System world-wide I do not know what the situation is like with US Customs at the moment - does anyone operate in that area ? Now that the Aus-USA-FTA has been signed this appears to be set to add considerable cost to Australian exporters/importers and US exporters/importers unless the ebXML Community can sort it out very quickly NEXT STEPS Does anyone from the ebXML Community have any suggestions? Stephen GOULD e-Projects Co-ordinator OPEN INTERCHANGE CONSORTIUM E: sggould@oic.org T: {61}(2) 9953-7412 W: http://www.oic.org/z/XZIG On 7 Sep 04, at 9:36, Duane Nickull wrote: > Stephen: > > While this is interesting ( I will probably read it), how is this > relevant to those who subscribed to this list to develop ebXML? > > I am sure that the USA and Australian trade dispute has a better forum > somewhere???? Perhaps the WTO should get involved? > > As a general rule of net etiquette, subscribers to lists are encouragd > to make postings that are specific to the topic of the list. We do > appreciate your contributions to this list that are relevant to ebXML. > Thank you for keeping future contributions ebXML specific. > > Duane Nickull > > -- > Senior Standards Strategist > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://www.adobe.com > > >
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