RE: Help needed on using ebXML Registry

["Munter, Joel D" <joel.d.munter@intel.com>]

David

I was simply trying to correct Farrukh's representation of UDDI as a place
to store "products."  I did not intend to make nor do I believe that I made
any statement about ebXML's ability to do this.  I wanted to clarify that
UDDI is a Registry for Services, not Products.  

The way that I read Farrukh's remarks about ebXML is a little different.  It
looks like Farrukh is stating that the ebXML Registry services (ebRS)
specification DO NOT describe how to register products and services within
the ebXML Registry.  I agree with you, this sounds suspect.  If this is
true, then where is this defined within the volume of ebXML specifications.

Joel 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lyon [mailto:djlyon@one.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:09 PM
To: ebxml-discussion@lists.ebxml.org
Subject: Re: Help needed on using ebXML Registry


Joel,

So are you saying that there is no way to define products in ebXML ?

This will be a major problem for business users don't you think ?

I mean, how can business use ebXML if it can't cope with doing products ?

Just a thought.....

David

----- Original Message -----
From: Munter, Joel D <joel.d.munter@intel.com>
To: 'Farrukh Najmi' <najmi@east.sun.com>; Rosita Marin <rmarin@sodalia.it>
Cc: ebxml-discussion <ebxml-discussion@lists.ebxml.org>;
<ebxml-regrep@lists.ebxml.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:04 AM
Subject: RE: Help needed on using ebXML Registry


>
> I apologize if this addition/correction to Farrukh's reply is off-thread
but
> I would like to make a slight correction.  With respect to Farrukh's
> statement, "...Unlike other registries (e.g. UDDI), the ebXML Registry
specs
> do not describe how products and services are represented in the
> registry...," I state the following.
>
> The UDDI specification DO NOT DESCRIBE how PRODUCTS are represented within
> the UDDI Registry.
> The UDDI specifications DO DESCRIBE how SERVICES are represented within
the
> UDDI Registry.
>
> Joel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:najmi@east.sun.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:59 AM
> To: Rosita Marin
> Cc: ebxml-discussion; ebxml-regrep@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: Re: Help needed on using ebXML Registry
>
>
> Rosita,
>
> In ebXML different specifications address different aspects of the ebXML
> B2B architectural stack. The registry specs define how arbitrary content
> is published, discovered and retrieved from the registry using the
> interface described in Registry Services Spec (RSS version 1.0
> http://www.ebxml.org/specs/ebRS.pdf ) and Registry Information Model (RIM
> version 1.0  http://www.ebxml.org/specs/ebRIM.pdf ).
>
> Unlike other registries (e.g. UDDI), the ebXML Registry specs do not
> describe how products and services are represented in the registry. This
> description of products, services etc. are defined by other ebXML
> specifications. For example the Business Process Specification (
> http://www.ebxml.org/specs/ebBPSS.pdf )
> defines how to represent business processes (generalization of services)
> in ebXML. I am not aware of any ebXML spec defining product description.
> The closest area may be Core Components team. Registry clients are free to
> store any type of content which allows for custom product descriptions
> syntax and custom product catalogs.
>
> Please let us know if you have any more questions.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Farrukh
>
> Rosita Marin wrote:
>
> > I am a newcomer to the ebXML world. In these last two weeks I have
> > been examining the specification documents to understand if I can
> > use ebXML in a trial project we are currently developing.
> >
> > At the moment I am trying to understand how products and services
> > are to be described in a ebXML Registry, and I have to say
> > that I am a bit confused. Basically I find it hard to understand
> > where I can find the necessary information to do what I need.
> > For the trial project I have to describe products and services
> > of a telecom service provider.
> >
> > Probably a sort of road map in the documentation, to find
> > out the info I need, would be very helpful.
> >
> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >                                               Rosita Marin
> >
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> Regards,
> Farrukh
>
>
>
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