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Subject: [ebxml-mktg-sc] FWD: RE: [announce] Oct 16th - SAP @ Uniboard and XMLintegration Webc ast.
Well - now I've said this...! Actually it came up earlier today on the JCC liaison meeting - which went very well BTW - and they've asked us to attend their bi-weekly conf' call - and clearly we can become the de-facto outreach arm here - all thanks to the hardwork of the team. We can discuss more of this Thursday - and I'll give a full report then - and Carol has arranged for us to have a researcher available - Eric Stetzler - to help us produce materials and do outreach. I've already found a laundry list for Eric to work on - including helping putting promotional materials together... Thanks, DW. -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: "XMLEDI Group", INTERNET:xmledi-group@disa.org To: "XMLEDI Group", INTERNET:xmledi-group@disa.org Date: 10/15/2002 11:44 PM RE: RE: [announce] Oct 16th - SAP @ Uniboard and XML integration Webc ast. Ed', Thanks for the question. The ebXML Awareness team is indeed working on materials to articulate the need to realize how to use ebXML and WS to maximum advantage. We should have these available within a couple of weeks. In a nutshell though it comes down to maturity of delivery mechanisms and ability to provide robust payloads and business processes, balanced against realtime response. The ebXML technology stack gives robust reliable integration, while web services gives interactive point and shoot linkages but have weak guaranteed availability. So if I'm using ebXML to enhance the buying and selling of stocks for example - I'd use the WS to find out the latest price of a stock issue - but ebXML to handle the actual transactions securing the sale and transfers. Also - in regard to the underpinning XML itself, WS lean on simple XSD schema and tModels and WSDL. This is fine for simple point-and-shoot content - like - here's the ticker, give me the bid and ask prices please in US $. There's less than 10 elements of data here, and they are well defined. But for extended transactions with complex structures and need for business context rules - like the actual stock purchase request - then you need much more than the simple schema - to specify the exact interactions, meet all the regulatory reporting needs. That is where ebXML assembly, core component and registry technologies come strongly into play. We will announce to the group the availability of the new WP and PPT materials that give greater depth on this. Till then I hope this brief overview is helpful on showing that while WS can be helpful for lightweight interactive exchanges - your core information systems will use ebXML for the vital secure external interchanges and business processes. Thanks, DW. ======================================================== Message text written by "XMLEDI Group" > Hi David, This is very timely. However, I have an immediate need to clarify the relationship between web services and ebXML. Advertising the fact that there is a relationship between XML, web services and SAP commitment to both will do little to convince my colleagues that ebXML is the way forward! Do you have any clarifying articles/statements on the relationship of web services and ebXML. The problem areas include resolving the relationship between ebXML registry and UDDI. < --- You are currently subscribed to xmledi-group as: Gnosis_@compuserve.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-xmledi-group-13803Q@disa.org ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: bounce-xmledi-group-13803@disa.org Received: from listman.disa.org ([65.201.162.100]) by siaag1ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.15) with SMTP id XAA15882 for <Gnosis_@compuserve.com>; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 23:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 23:34:44 -0400 From: David RR Webber - XMLGlobal <Gnosis_@compuserve.com> Subject: RE: [announce] Oct 16th - SAP @ Uniboard and XML integration Webc ast. Sender: David RR Webber - XMLGlobal <Gnosis_@compuserve.com> To: "XMLEDI Group" <xmledi-group@disa.org> Message-ID: <LYRIS-13803-13735-2002.10.15-23.32.34--Gnosis_#compuserve.com@disa.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:leave-xmledi-group-13803Q@disa.org> Reply-To: "XMLEDI Group" <xmledi-group@disa.org>
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